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[–] Runaway-White-Slave 1 points 24 points (+25|-1) ago  (edited ago)

"To think that Apple won't allow us to get into her cellphone? Who do they think they are?"

-Trump On the San Bernardino terrorists' phone.....

It's a shit situation, the man may very well not have CP on his hard drives.

All this shit is ludicrous though, the NSA has multiple "Data Centers", the newer one in Utah and the older one in Maryland, built specifically to store all online activities of even Americans. Why not just call in the NSA and see if he downloaded anything?.... Probably because they don't want it at the forefront of American's minds that the government is actually storing all electronic interactions.

And if there was an "internal investigation", and it was images on the cops local network......? They know if he ran off with kiddie porn that for some odd reason the cops were hosting on their own internal network.

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[–] FPSFairy 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

"To think that Apple won't allow us to get into her cellphone? Who do they think they are?"

That attitude neatly sums up 90% of my grievances about Trump.

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[–] ShinyVoater 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Freenet doesn't work that way. The architecture is that everybody stores some data on their node and, when asked for a certain chunk, the node sends a copy to the requester or relays the signal to another node; if the chunk's found, a copy is made on each node until it reaches the requester. While this means that he almost certainly had CP on his computer in the technical sense, to get at this data you need a file descriptor that indicates what chunks are necessary; without it, you've got nothing but gibberish good for nothing but passing on.

Here's the FAQ on it.

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[–] Broc_Lia 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

So they're not even sure if he requested the CP, or if he was just the equivalent of a TOR node.

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[–] newoldwave 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

It's not unless he made the pics himself.

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[–] rspix000 [S] 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago 

From the EFF brief:

"compelled decryption is inherently testimonial because it compels a suspect to use the contents of their mind to translate unintelligible evidence into a form that can be used against them. The Fifth Amendment provides an absolute privilege against such self-incriminating compelled decryption."

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[–] PlasmaDistortion 0 points 17 points (+17|-0) ago 

I have got so many backup hard drives laying around that are all encrypted and I seriously doubt that I could remember the password for some of them. The stuff on them is things like taxes, pictures, and just random stuff, but according to this type of rule I could go to jail forever if I cannot remember the passwords. This is the most moronic law ever and sets up any person to be jailed forever.

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[–] Mathurin1911 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

IIRC logs show he accessed them on a semi-regular basis.

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[–] wesofx 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

I wonder if he could have lied about forgetting his passwords.

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[–] Fact_Checking_Alien 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

And what if he didn't? That's the truly horrible thing. We do not actually have a "lie detector"; the so-called "lie detector test" was never scientific and is not used in court because it does not work. We are so far removed from William Blackstone saying "It is better ten guilty men go free" that it scares me. We probably jail and convict far more innocent people than guilty, especially due to the lopsided manner public defenders are funded. "Justice" in this country is basically bought and sold depending on how much money you can throw at a team of lawyers.

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[–] ZYX321 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

No downvoats for your soft on crime stance? Doesnt that make you a cuck? Maybe no one has seen your disgusting display of mature reasonability. Have an upvoat so justice can find you.

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[–] Broc_Lia 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Even if he did lie, does he still remember them now? I didn't log in to my bank account for a month once and I forgot the password/usernumber. I eventually worked it out from the fragments I did remember, but this guy has been in prison for over a year. Who knows what he remembers.

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[–] revofire 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

And who cares? He has the right to not decrypt it. They have no evidence yet they can cage a man? Disgusting.

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[–] wesofx 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I agree. I don't think anyone should be able to force you to decrypt your data. What if you've got valuable intellectual property? What if you've got lots of crypto-currency? They could steal everything from you wouldn't be able to prove it.

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[–] NorBdelta 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

What about if he denies even having encrypted content, some encryption software completely scrambles data so actually point to data that is encrypted is impossible until it is unlocked.

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[–] Reddit_Suxs 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

As much as I hate pedos he is innocent until proved guilty. He also has a right not to incriminate himself so he does not have to give that password. What is being done to him is against the 5TH Amendment.

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[–] Mathurin1911 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

The feds intentionally choose pedos and terrorists for cases like these. They know most people cannot see past the accusation to the precedent they are going to set.

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[–] Reddit_Suxs 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

They have too or we are all fucked.

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[–] lurkmoreplease 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Compounded by the fact that he has a public defender. So it's not like he has a crack team fighting for him. Just wasting away... slowly.. with no charges against him.

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[–] Reddit_Suxs 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Pathetic and another example of a judge abusing his power.

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[–] theoldguy 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Suppose he honestly forgot what the password is? A life sentence for a lapse in memory.

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[–] greycloud 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

http://archive.is/372OG archived from February 2017

Francis Rawls, a former Philadelphia police sergeant, has been in the Philadelphia Federal Detention Center for more than 16 months. His crime: the fired police officer has been found in contempt of court for refusing a judge's order to unlock two hard drives the authorities believe contain child pornography. Theoretically, Rawls can remain jailed indefinitely until he complies.

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[–] rspix000 [S] 2 points 4 points (+6|-2) ago 

In theory, it may be indefinite detention. However, the contempt power of the court is only useful when there is a possibility of success. At some point, the guy can just say, it won't do any good, no matter how long you keep it up, and the judge will set him free. A handy judicial maxim: The law does not command a futile act.

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[–] GIF-lLL-S0NG 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

6th amendment says

the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial

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[–] greycloud 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

there are much bigger fish to fry than me. i manage to keep my hands to myself. sure my mouth probably isn't doing me any favors, but if v/pizzagate is right, there are people who are much more influential than i am and who have blood on their hands. if "they" are ever going to be impactful at all, they can't focus on people like me, because if they did, they would never get to the people that really matter.

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[–] newoldwave 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Is the vaunted ACLU helping this guy?

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[–] rspix000 [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Rawls' attorney, Federal Public Defender Keith Donoghue

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