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[–] SquarebobSpongebutt 0 points 19 points (+19|-0) ago 

Two issues here:

1) Government acting like a request to voluntarily not disclose is the same as getting a gag order ordering you not to disclose.

2) Rubber stamping of any warrant or gag order that is filled out fully.

Gag orders are an important tool for prosecution. There are definite cases where it is dangerous to let someone be tipped off that they are being investigated. This is extremely important in long-term investigations of people like spies, crime bosses, corporate fraud, etc. But they become heavily abused in cases where they really don't apply. Once Reason had the subpoena they were required to capture the data. It becomes a moot point if the commenters then find out and delete the comments/their accounts as the data was already captured. Also, there was no way someone was leaving the country based on a blog comment. So why gag them? To shut them up basically. They couldn't write articles tracking the process in real-time to make government look bad. And everyone knows that some little article after the fact will not get people upset badly enough to change anything. There is nothing to get a bunch of folks to fight about now. It's all over. At least until the next one we won't hear about until it is over.

Warrants are a whole other problem. Fill out the paperwork fully and you will get a warrant almost 100% promised.

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[–] bill.lee 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

For me, that is the telling aspect of the situation--there really are no checks left within the system...fill out the paperwork and get 'X' approved. I really liked the description of Velamoor, too. The system, particularly one that rewards with power, is designed to create the loss of the individual. I think this what creates the psychology for the rubber stamp environment ("we play for the same team") and it allows outsiders, no matter how minimal the offense, to become targeted with fervor ("these people said mean things on the internet").

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[–] Mr_Pie_Eater 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Exactly. I mean, whose to say that someone working for Hillary Clinton's campaign didn't get me shadow banned from Reddit for speaking the truth about her or other things that go against the liberal agenda?

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[–] HoneyNutStallmans 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

For me, that is the telling aspect of the situation--there really are no checks left within the system...fill out the paperwork and get 'X' approved.

You don't even need the courts anymore.

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[–] New_years_day 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

On the same page: look what happened to Lavabit for the Snowden shit.

If you think you can just create a free speech machine, you gonna have some dicks poking around yo ass.