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[–] misslauve 0 points 108 points (+108|-0) ago 

Reddit has not removed any content related to its company or its CEO.

That's the biggest lie I've heard all week.

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[–] hungir_strike 1 points 13 points (+14|-1) ago 

I had a hearty guffaw over that line.

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[–] cwt 1 points 6 points (+7|-1) ago 

I chortled.

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[–] RedSocks157 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

Har!

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[–] grantishere [S] 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Hah what a joke! I guess somewhere in their policy it states "All news may be submitted (unless of course it is about Buddy Fletcher or Ellen Pao)".

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[–] ddd 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

well, it is NBC, the channel that is keeping Brian Williams because of how "important" he is. Read some comments(forgot which site, but the comment sections have facebook format) and the vast majority of people there are supporting Brian Williams...

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[–] jackofdiamonds 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Dude did get a massive demotion. He's right now on level with Al Sharpton and a bunch of other people with more of a reputation for manipulating media to support their narratives than with promoting honest, objective journalism.

I was hoping (on a longshot) that he'd get hired by SNL to do Weekend Update. I think he'd have been perfect for that job. But I'd rather listen to him than that sneering, preening little 20 year old shit in a suit, Chris Hayes.

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[–] Scarcer 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

All the permabans after the announcement...

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[–] Kindhamster 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I think you mean "shadowbans"

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[–] novictim 0 points 27 points (+27|-0) ago  (edited ago)

It is sooo depressing to watch every MSM comment on the Reddit Censorship campaign. Its always young, inexperienced, uninformed editorial comments that never seem to recognize the inherent value of a free and open society where the people get to say what ever they damn well please.

If you don't believe in Free Speech then you don't accept the premise for popular democracy. It is just that simple.

Either people can weed out the bad ideas from the good and therefore chart a wise path forward through government or they can't in which case a benevolent and wise dictator is the best system we can hope to live under.

Choose!

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[–] CogentLobster 0 points 18 points (+18|-0) ago 

The tone of this MSM piece seems pro-corporate and pro-Pao. The NBC piece doesn't really describe the umbrage some Reddit users have with Pao, but rather paints them as an unruly mob that poor Pao has been burdened with as part of her new job.

Honestly, I don't think you'll see balanced MSM reportage on Reddit until it is no longer a viable business interest.

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[–] novictim 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago  (edited ago)

" paints them as an unruly mob that poor Pao has been burdened with as part of her new job."

Such are the burdens off the Fuhrer.

"until it is no longer a viable business interest." That is the dirty truth of the matter.

My guess is that more than half of these tech "writers" see themselves as getting employed somewhere in the Tech/dot-com industry so they write their opinion pieces with that obsequious "flare" and servility in order to ingratiate themselves into a future job situation.

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[–] ctkatz 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

shows what tabloid drive by clickbait one sides stories goes for mass media these days. this mentions the reason why fatpeoplehate got banned but doesn't say one word about subs existing longer than fph that are still unbanned that probably would start a gofundme for dylann roof's defense fund or subs that would viciously attack people through harassing people at home or at work because something they said online somewhere offended them or subs that get their sexual jollies by pleasuring themselves to images of dead corpses.

if anyone thinks that the mainstream media is "liberal", why is it that none of those outlets reporting on the story has asked that since fph has been banned for its noninclusiveness and harassment, why does coontown, gasthejews, shitredditsays, picsofcutegirls, picsofdeaskids, etc. still exist?

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[–] julian 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

Most people value comfort or social harmony more than freedom. It does take a sort of masochistic streak to really hold to principles of Free Expression. Every dictator who has ever lived took advantage of the impulse in man to just get on with life and not cause trouble. Free Speech invites strife from the outset, and the will to carry on long enough for a civil society to accrete around that idealism has only manifested a few times in history: Athens, Paris, Philadelphia, et al. Personally I'd feel ashamed if I wasn't at least doing some small part to keep that light burning.

This isn't trivial, or petty, or frivolous. This matters.

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[–] deadbeef 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Very well put.

If a government or institution wants to eradicate free speech then I think, eventually, they will. Fighting for it can cause strife and hardship, and most people just want to get on with their lives and avoid stress. When your opponent knows this, they're going to push and push until nobody wants to fight anymore.

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[–] novictim 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Nice!

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[–] BANGcake 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I don't think free speech and popular democracy necessarily go hand in hand. The bill of rights is meant to provide basic rights for all, despite popular opinion.

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[–] novictim 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago  (edited ago)

"I don't think free speech and popular democracy necessarily go hand in hand"

Yes, they do. The public must know what the issues are and what their representatives are doing in order to make their choice and cast their votes.

This is a quite basic Politics 101. You cannot have "the consent of the governed" if the government are uninformed.

This also implies that the people get the government they deserve.

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[–] novictim 2 points -1 points (+1|-2) ago 

Get your blood checked for lead. Though the damage is permanent, at least you will know why you are the way you are.

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[–] novictim 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

"if we create a culture that doesn't value and practice absolute free speech, then we'll end up losing it,"

Hear! Hear! And it is not as though we have not had periods in the past where the majority had a bedrock appreciation for Free Speech. Even today, the majority grasp its importance.

It is just this artificial notion that Free Enterprise trumps Free Speech that seems to be leading us to a very dark place. As the internet and hosting services and media outlets get ever more consolidated, we will find the distinction of "Private" vs "Public" dangerously irrelevant.

When corporations gain the power of governments, the distinction loses its meaning.

The reality is that We the People actually own and control the Internet and Communications Airwaves by law. We have Public Institutions that oversee these entities and We the People have the ultimate power to tell a large entity like Google or Reddit to stop the censorship should we choose to exercise our prerogatives.

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[–] milliamp 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Can we change the table these comments are in to a percentage of screen width rather than a fixed width? 2560x1440 here.

I'll disable ABP :)

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[–] Clayton 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I would suggest submitting this idea to /v/ideasforvoat. I have tagged the two main admins below so they will see your comment. They are extremely busy and as you can imagine their inbox is flooded, so it might be better to post this idea to /v/ideasforvoat.


@Atko @PuttItOut


EDIT: Voat does not show ads, Voat runs entirely off donations.

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[–] SlayerOfShoes 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Also, give ublock a whirl. It's dandy!

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[–] rationalinquisition 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Studies have shown that negotiating tends to hurt women more than men, even when the women are successful in the negotiations.

What a stupid way to put that. It would be more accurate to say that negotiate tends to help men more than it helps women.

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[–] JesTheRed 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I love to see horrible people get the bad press they deserve. This was a puff piece considering how bad it could have been, but as more and more reporters start to compete over the scoop one of them will eventually discover the depths of this woman's ethical abyss and lay it all out there in a nice little package.

I can't wait until she tries to scorch Reddit on her way out. I imagine the lawsuit will have something to do with the company not entirely protecting her sensitive eyes from all the hate the users spew at her. For full self-destruct, she might even pick a few of us and launch multimillion-dollar defamation suits. Fun!

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[–] justanaccount 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

hehe yeah her exit will be entertaining for sure. i hope she sues reddit, would be hilarious!

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[–] WeAllVoatDownHere 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Reddit itself has garnered some reputation for being a hub of illicit content.

Some reputation? Vague and meaningless but puts the word reputation in your mind so you feel there's an established pattern, hub of illicit content implies it's a place for sharing and exchanging illegal material. (Which may go on, though I've never personally seen any illegal content, no doubt like the rest of the internet and the world in general it's there if you search it out.) This sets the readers mind nicely against the reddit users as a bunch of degenerate criminals.

a survey that showed most Reddit users wouldn't recommend the site to friends due to "hate and offensive content."

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't the sample size a tiny percent of the userbase and the people who said they'd not recommend reddit a tiny subset in itself?

We created these anti-harassment policies because our ultimate goal is to encourage authentic conversations and idea - sharing on an open platform with many voices participating. The Internet is an evolving medium and presents a number of challenges at scale, and we're learning and hopefully improving our place in it. We knew there would be a small but vocal minority opposed to it, but we believed it was the right thing to do.

We created these "anti-harassment" policies because our ultimate goal is to control conversations and ideas - allow authorized content to be shared on a controlled platform with only sanitized voices participating. The Internet is an evolving medium and presents a number of challenges at scale, and we're trying to forcibly take control of it. We knew there would be outcry, but what can they actually do about it? FTFY

Reddit has not removed any content related to its company or its CEO. The only content that would ever be removed‎ would be if it explicitly violated the site's rules.

Straight up, barefaced lying!

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[–] funnyfarm299 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I might not be significantly upset about FPH being banned, but I am glad the mainstream media continues to cover this. The longer it stays in the news, the greater the scrutiny on Pao.

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[–] JackBadass 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Of course they don't remove content related to the company or Chairman Pao. They just shadowban the person posting the content, instead.

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