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[–] Eshu_Eleggua 0 points 27 points (+27|-0) ago 

Not surprised here. Every time there is a tragedy like this the politicians swarm like vultures pushing an agenda. It is sad that they won't even wait till after the funerals.

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[–] battle 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

The only reason they do this is because they want to further entrench themselves in their positions of power. Best way to do that? Disarm the peasants. They don't actually care about the lives of ordinary people, just themselves. Hillary and all the other gun grabbers don't go anywhere without 10 armed bodyguards, yet they want to remove your right to protect yourself and your family.

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[–] mustard_tiger 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

It's almost like those in power are totally cool with two differing set of rules. Oh shi...

Beside battle, you have the police to protect you. I mean sure, I live in a poor rural area where we don't have a police department and it could take the state police or sheriff's department upwards of an hour to respond to an incident. It's not like anything bad ever happens in small towns. Well a few years ago, a bank in town was robbed. Then the year after the other bank was robbed. But you'd have to be some paranoid asshole to want to protect yourself after hearing an armed robbery was committed blocks away and the perpetrator escaped on foot into the community. Oh or the hostage situation that happened a few houses down from a friend.

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[–] dorf_physics 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I doubt it. Plenty of countries were it's very rare for the citizenry to own guns, and many of those countries aren't oppressive police states. Perhaps the US has "passed the point of no return" though; so many firearms are in circulation that restricting their ownership would achieve nothing but a black market.

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[–] Kabuthunk 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Owning a gun isn't going to save you if the government or some robber wanted to drop you like a fly. Unless you sleep with a loaded revolver under your pillow... not recommended... someone can get the drop on you every single time, no matter what, if they actually wanted to. Assuming you own a gun like an actual responsible gun owner, said gun is going to be sitting locked up somewhere.

That said, a gun would be amazingly useful for protecting yourself from a broader spectrum of dangers, rather than a direct attack. Should the populace at some point in the future require taking up arms against those in power, I can honestly say I'll be pussying out off to the side, as I don't particularly desire taking a knife to a gun fight.

Or y'know, just shooting guns, because that's fun as hell. I grew up in the country, I know the deal :)

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[–] kurfu 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

"Never let a good crisis go to waste." -every politician, ever.

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[–] UncleIroh 0 points 18 points (+18|-0) ago 

This is gross. She really is gonna use this tragedy to further her own political agenda. Fuck this.

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[–] Ozzsanity 3 points 1 points (+4|-3) ago 

Yeah she should just ignore the whole incident.

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[–] UncleIroh 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Or talk about how shitty and tragic the shooting was, and then talk about gun control after everything has settled so it doesn't look like she's trying to get the country to agree to gun control on an emotional knee jerk reaction.

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[–] CarpetDime 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Using a tragedy to armchair quarterback your own political agenda isn't the same thing as talking about the tragedy, and I think you know that.

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[–] XPS 1 points 15 points (+16|-1) ago 

My "Common Sense" says that she can fuck right off with her opportunism and that we need to address the real issues regarding these incidents which is mental health.

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[–] purr 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

My "Common Sense" says that all gun control laws should be repealed.

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[–] Bateman616 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I want common sense Hillary Clinton control, drone attack, Guantanamo, whatever, anything that will liberate us from enduring this fucking witch.

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[–] matt 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

We do not have a "gun problem" in the united states. We have a mental services problem that leads to problems with violence. I'm worried that in the absence of guns, these deeply disturbed people would use bombs.

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[–] Kinther 3 points 1 points (+4|-3) ago 

I honestly think that it should be more difficult to obtain guns, and gun safety courses should be offered to every new owner. Shit, we make people take a test and prove they know how to drive a car -- why not with firearms? Even pro-gun lobbies agree gun safety is important, and education is a powerful tool.

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[–] JoshuaQuail 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago  (edited ago)

if i'm not mistaken, the shooter acquired his firearm as an under-the-table gift. there's literally nothing that new legislation can do to prevent that.

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[–] SquarebobSpongebutt 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

That was what I thought, but another article said his family gave him money for his birthday and he bought it legally with that money. BUT, I am unclear as to whether that was before his felony drug arrest or not. That could make it illegal. And his possession of it should have been illegal due to that arrest.

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[–] Joeh 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

I understand the concept you're trying to convey, but in the most well mannered way I can say it, you can't compare cars and guns. In fact, as a pro gun control advocate you ought not lobby for like legislation, you would be disappointed with the outcome.

From a legal standpoint, at this point, it's not even a close comparison as firearms are constitutionally protected as a universal right, car ownership and driving is a privilege.

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[–] AnimalMother_ 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

That wouldn't have stopped this, it was already illegal for this guy to obtain a firearm legally.

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[–] HST 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

it was already illegal for this guy to obtain a firearm legally.

I don't understand

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[–] tehPenguin0fd00m 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I'd recommend you take a look at this article: http://www.thepolemicist.net/2013/01/the-rifle-on-wall-left-argument-for-gun.html which is essentially in line with my own views on the subject and which makes a number of points that are worth considering.

In short, restricting gun ownership is regressive.

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[–] sombravetado 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

When I want to know about how bad it is for private citizens to have guns, I listen to someone who has armed Secret Service agents around her at all times.

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[–] surprisecockfag 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Man she is not even trying to hide the fact she's pandering to tumblr-style leftists.

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