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[–] xeemee 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

Isn't it kind of funny that this is the only historical event that you can be jailed for questioning? That should raise a huge red flag.

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[–] SomewhatNeutral [S] 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Well, actually, there are other laws in other countries regarding other genocides (or mass murders or not depending on POV), particularly the Armenian genocide.

Not only will the list of mass murders get expansive, but the particular facts of each event will be discussed for decades to come. It's not like these laws apply when 'legitimate' Holocaust historians/organizations change details about the Holocaust anyway.

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[–] 6243739? 3 points 12 points (+15|-3) ago  (edited ago)

Define details please. Is the logistical implausability of killing thousands of people every day by gassing a detail? Is the absence of cyanide traces in the alleged gas chambers a detail? I The absence of bones from 6 million allegedly cremated bodies a detail? Is the fact that the fuel required to fully cremate 6 million would be more than was used by all nations in Wwii a detail?

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[–] pissed 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

There are countries where "genocide denial" of any kind (not only the holocaust) is against the law. Examples are Liechtenstein, Portugal, Switzerland, etc.

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[–] Apathy 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

There are also countries where not denying genocide (Turkey) will get you jailed.

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[–] poloport 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Genocide denial isn't ilegal in Portugal. There is a law agaisnt it, but that law is overruled by the constitution, so in essence it is only ilegal in a very narrow situation, when denying it is being used to insult someone.

So essentially:

"The holocaust never happened" - Perfectly legal

"I wish the holocaust had happened so that you were gassed back then you cocksucker" - Ilegal

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[–] NomeSayin 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

That is a huge red flag. A lot of people are too brainwashed/stupid to understand the implications.

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[–] thisisarealusername 6 points 33 points (+39|-6) ago 

No one outside germany cares. Holocaust is over. Wish hitler would have won.

t-.-t

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[–] SomewhatNeutral [S] 0 points 30 points (+30|-0) ago 

No one outside germany cares.

Well everyone should care about the future of free speech in Germany and other countries with similar laws.

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[–] thisisarealusername 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

That part was exaggration in order to frame the topic. People think a neutral opinion on hitler is equally bad to their opinion that supporting him is bad. This helps them clear that up

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[–] Exit 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

isnt ICANN being given to the EU or UN? Would that allow them to regulate free speech on the internet?

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[–] jerry 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Free speech has no future in Germany or the rest of the EU

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[–] jeegte12 4 points 4 points (+8|-4) ago 

No one outside germany cares.

do you think everyone else shares your opinions?

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[–] AOU 2 points -2 points (+0|-2) ago 

No one cares about hams' opinions who are too lazy to control their own CICO.

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[–] Gorillion 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Is that little emoji giving the double-bird?

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[–] thisisarealusername 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

yes, yes it is

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[–] bourbonexpert 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

kind of a bummer that you are on point.

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[–] SomewhatNeutral [S] 3 points 10 points (+13|-3) ago  (edited ago)

"To learn (((who))) rules over you, simply find out (((who))) you are not allowed to criticise"

While I think it was obvious that Jews have an important role in perpetuating the Holocaust story, it must be said that the Allies had a lot to hide so it would seem imperative that they accuse the Germans (and Japanese, for that matter) of horrible crimes in a rigged trial and convict them thereof.

Voltaire

Wasn't his quote.

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[–] xeemee 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago  (edited ago)

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[–] xeemee 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

nice try, but the authentic quote is as follows and is not attributed to Voltaire...

“To determine the true rulers of any society, all you must do is ask yourself this question: Who is it that I am not permitted to criticize?” — Kevin Alfred Strom, ‘Classic American Dissident Voices Program’, ‘All America Must Know the Terror That is Upon Us’, August 14, 1993

source: All America Must Know the Terror That is Upon Us - 1993 - YouTube

be careful with your quotes because, as i am learning myself, many are not authentic

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[–] ratsmack 4 points 16 points (+20|-4) ago 

An estimated 6 million Jews were exterminated across Europe under Adolf Hitler's dictatorship.

The lie that won't die.

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[–] SomewhatNeutral [S] 1 points 21 points (+22|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Funny how even when a camp knocks 2.5 million off of its death toll, the claim of deaths from the Holocaust still remains at 11 million.

Reminds me of a joke I keep seeing:

In all of German-occupied Europe, there were 2.4 million Jews. After the war, 3.8 million Jews applied for Holocaust reparations. Tragically, the remaining 6 million were lost.

(From this recount of an interview on CNN)

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[–] xeemee 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

better yet....

“The only thing we know about Hitler is that he killed six million Jews which never existed in gas chambers which nobody ever saw.” — Dr. Roger Dommergue, Jewish professor, philosopher, essayist and revisionist, quoted from an interview conducted by Ernst Zündel

source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFDvtzwT-TU

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[–] amnotabot 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

Funny how in a different thread, the allies (during wwii) could calculate how many tanks the Germans were producing per month. yet, they cannot work out how many jews died....

Just saying....

On the holcaust thing.

Stalin did 10 million Ukrainians, for fun! 10 million Ukes. Starved to death. That does not include the Russians etc he did.

And then there was that guy Pol Pot... And there was that Chinese guy... Moa... how many did Mao kill?

Google: "suggested a death toll of between 85 and 100 million people" LOL , SHitler was a part timer....

Russian revolution run by jews and the Stalin death squads run by jews... 9 million?

Strange how you only ever hear the constant moaning from the yids!

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[–] Tancred 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Maybe because a huge portion of the Bolsheviks were Jews and Jews have a huge influence on the media.
Naturally no one wants to harp on the genocide of their ancestors (with the exception of Germans).

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[–] SoloPoloVision 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Funny how in a different thread, the allies (during wwii) could calculate how many tanks the Germans were producing per month. yet, they cannot work out how many jews died....

Jews don't have a manufacturer's serial number

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[–] SomewhatNeutral [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

They have tatoos with numbers from the camps, at least.

Except Elie Wiesel.

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[–] Superchexx 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago  (edited ago)

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[–] SomewhatNeutral [S] 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago  (edited ago)

As I posted in another thread:

She was sentenced to 10 months in prison last November for pretty much the same reasons regarding Auschwitz and the existence of an extermination policy during WWII in an interview aired on TV and the internet. Her sentence seems like it would have ended within the next few weeks, but now it would be 8 more months in prison for her.

She would be in prison for 18 months for her opinion and analysis on a historical event/period.

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[–] xeemee 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

... regarding Auschwitz and the existence of an extermination policy during WWII ...

try finding any evidence that supports that there was a policy to exterminate Jews

spoiler alert: you need not bother looking, because if there was such a document, it would be prominently plastered across the front page of every "holocaust" museum on the planet

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[–] SomewhatNeutral [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

try finding any evidence that supports that there was a policy to exterminate Jews

Haha, no need to tell me :)

if there was such a document

WELL CLEARLY BY "SOLUTION TO THE JEWISH PROBLEM" THEY MEANT EXTERMINATION. JUST LOOK AT ALL THE PICTURES OF DEAD BODIES!

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[–] SoloPoloVision 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

try finding any evidence that supports that there was a policy to exterminate Jews

You mean like Himmler's Posen speech?

Of course there's not much written evidence because, on defeat looking likely for Germany, Himmler ordered records of the policy and related orders to be destroyed.

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[–] Tancred 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

It's funny how they just had to shove the 6 million into the article.

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[–] SomewhatNeutral [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Everyone forgets about the other 5 million.

Even the "exterminationists" clearly don't know their own story.

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