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[–] Clayton 10 points 2 points (+12|-10) ago  (edited ago)

Is it because Society as a whole respected police officers

This is why. My father was in law enforcement 30+ years, starting in the early 70's. He retired in 2007. My father has stated, even before the media started sensationalizing police brutality that when he first started, people respected the police. There was no "Fuck the police" attitude when my father first started law enforcement, but there is now. My father always said that back in the 70's, 80's, and very early 90's, suspects fought you to get away, now they fight to kill the officer. My dad was issued body armor in the mid 80's, he didn't start wearing it until about late 90's early 2000's when he says the attitude towards cops changed.

People have gone from a respect the police because they are there to help you, to "cops are the new nazis and are oppressing us!" 99% of cops don't put on the uniform, strap on their body armor, and thinks to themselves, "I am going to oppress a neighborhood today" or "I want to kill someone today". I spoke to my father at great length one day on a five hour car ride after the whole Freddie Grey and Michael Brown stuff happened. He told me, "Clayton, don't ever get into law enforcement. The media thinks they know everything there is to know about law enforcement, but the only people who can understand what the officer was thinking, is those who walk the thin blue line day in and day out."

He was explaining to me how it is easy to look back at something and say, "You know, I could have done this differently." "Why didn't I do this?" but in the heat of the moment, one second of hesitation will cost you your life. In that video of the boy who got shot with his headphones in, you look at that and say, "What the fuck? Why did he shoot him?!" You say that because you're watching a video from the safety of your computer or phone. That officer had to make a split second decision, unfortunately he was wrong. But look at it the other way, if the boy had pulled a gun, and the officer took a split second to hesitate, he could be dead.

Cops aren't super humans, they are human just like us. My father showed me this video to show how scary situtations can be even with an unarmed suspect.

Here is an officer after a justified shooting, can you imagine the emotional trainwreck how he would be if he accidently shot an unarmed person?

Edit: Wow, downvoats for giving a response that isn't jerking the anti-cop circle?

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[–] Grundy 1 points 11 points (+12|-1) ago  (edited ago)

There is not one cop in the entire country that puts on the uniform, straps on their body armor, and thinks to themselves, "I am going to oppress a neighborhood today" or "I want to kill someone today".

I've seen that said in many ways before, and it really drives me nuts when I read it.

Bull. Fucking. Shit.

If you had said most don't, sure, yeah... but not one? There has been many major scandals since the 70's involving corrupted cops who almost certainly did exactly that, and they got caught and prosecuted for it. It's a matter of public record, you can't just pretend that it never happened.

And that's just the ones who get caught. There are almost certainly some out there right now who did that just this morning.

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[–] Clayton 3 points 3 points (+6|-3) ago  (edited ago)

Fixed. Jesus, people downvoating me like hell all because I didn't jerk the anti-cop dick.

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[–] 1Redditor 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Ouch power is known to corrupt

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[–] Ahabandthewhitegrail 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

What your response ignores is WHY attitudes changed, and it certainly wasn't in a vacuum. In the 90's, we learned cops were routinely torturing suspects to get confessions. What was rumor was suddenly documented in several court cases.

Additionally, with the rise of personal video, what was cop said/suspect said rumor and allegation became documented fact, police violence was rampant.

Then, in the 2000's, we learned cops were policing for profit, flat out ignoring crimes like rape (just how many rapes could have been prevented in Detroit alone if cops tested kits? Baltimore? Philadelphia?) or assault, while stealing everything from people with as little as an ounce of marijuana because it made them money.

Then came the studies proving traffic enforcement decreased safety, but was essential for police budgets.

Then came scandal after scandal of known criminals keeping jobs, getting pensions, and not being prosecuted for murder, pedophilia, embezzlement, drug running, and simple assault with battery because they had a badge.

What CAUSED the change in perception wasn't "the media," who, until very recently, remained very friendly with, and, frankly, collided with, cops, it was non media access to direct video showing extreme abuses in a daily basis.

Your father's life isn't in more danger because of Anderson Cooper, it's in more danger because his compatriots are licensed to kill, and probably shouldn't be.

That's why you're getting down voats, because you're ignoring the fact that if it weren't for the continuous stream of documented police corruption and abuse, the view of police would still be favourable.

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[–] russelln 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

This is an interesting perspective. I don't often think about how quickly an officer might have to make a life altering decision, and what it must be like in that moment. That is a heavy burden. Thanks for sharing.

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[–] Ahabandthewhitegrail 2 points 4 points (+6|-2) ago 

No, this isn't an interesting perspective. It's also not true.

Speaking from experience, any Marine, or soldier, who did this in a combat zone would be lucky with a dishonorable discharge. Likely, they'd also see brig time.

Cops have one of the middle of the road jobs for safety, and, minus car accidents, one of the safest. The fear and paranoia are because cops also are not often well educated, and live inside an echo chamber where every day, they're told it might be their last. This fear has led to insane policies that actually decrease officer safety, and these policies have also eroded public trust in what should be a respected institution.

This anecdote exposes the core problem, his father feels repressed, even though his job actually gives him far more safety, latitude, and freedom than his "oppressors."

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[–] 1Redditor 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

Wish i can upvote still new. Keep the faith. I agree completely