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[–] Mylon 3 points 0 points (+3|-3) ago  (edited ago)

You can't compare post-op suicide rate with general population. You must compare it to pre-op transgender rates. Pre-ops also kill themselves at tragic rates because of their difficulty fitting into society.

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[–] Fenrirwulf 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

The point is that there are high suicide rates for both pre- and post-op which is more evidence of it being a mental illness. The fact that the post-op suicide rates are still that much higher than gen-pop lends credence that the surgery is not a valid treatment of the illness.

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[–] Northvvait 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I'd have trouble fitting in to society too if I yelled at anyone that didn't address me as Attack Helicopter.

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[–] InyourfaceNancyGrace 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

You can't compare post-op suicide rate with general population. You must compare it to pre-op transgender rates. Pre-ops also kill themselves at tragic rates because of their difficulty fitting into society.

You can, they did, and it's a very telling comparison. It suggests that even after transition, there is a far-from-healthy psyche that remains. I understand that suicide rates are bad before surgery as well, which is why I said "still severe psychological issues" in my original post. When you compare to suicide attempts by pre-ops, it suggests that transitioning actually isn't a big help. I think many of these people are just uncomfortable in their own skin, with a fixation on genitalia as the root cause. When that cause is removed and nothing changes in their heads, of course suicide seems like a viable option.

I still (and will likely always) fall on the side of treating the mind to fit reality, not warping reality to fit the mind.

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[–] RedViiper 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

These people need to be medicated

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[–] Mylon 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

Medicated as in... Given Hormone Replacement Therapy?