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[–] ImmaBoat 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

U.S. unions are looked down upon for good reason. U.S. unions are greedy, crooked, inefficient, and outright useless. Under every union job I've had I've been paid less than even my lowest paying non-union job. Every matter took so long so very long to resolve with the damn union with non-union all I had to do was call HR they would talk to the both of us and try to resolve it within two weeks. Another thing I've had to work alongside some real idiots The kind of person who makes your job harder just because they can't do their own damn job the unions won't let the useless person go whereas in non-union if you are just being a burden you are gone easily replaced. I have never had one good experience working union every non-union job i've had was superior in nearly every way.

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[–] patman21 [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

My wife is in a union, and it was incredible to me to see that everyone's pay was laid out in her contract. (Also to see that similar positions paid significantly more than in my organization)

I think many people are told that unions=less jobs and they don't really care to know about any of the benefits.

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[–] belrial 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

It depends. The AFGE where I work is corrupt and will sell you out in a second.

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[–] DarkLinkXXXX 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Unpopular opinion: I think unions, not the capitalists, are to blame for the decline of union of union membership.

Union membership is still pragmatically a good decision, most of the time, but they really are starting to lose their teeth, and in some cases outright hostile to the working class. For example, an entire book (it's a great book by the way, I suggest you read it) was written about how the ILWU divided itself into different classes (class A and class B, in which class B was a second class membership), and then betrayed its class B members by electing a corrupt president and then signing a mechanization contract with the Pacific Maritime Association (their employers). In addition, PMA employees used to be hired through the union, but that is no longer the case.

Let's take another example. My dad works at Boeing. It has three unions, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but they all cross each others picket lines! Seriously, this happens whenever there's a strike, and nobody gives too shits about it. God dammit people, it's "Solidarity Forever", not "Solidarity when my union says so!".

The simple truth is, unions need to sharpen their teeth! Most unions today sign contracts with a no-strike clause. WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU DO THAT? How can you expect the rules of your contract to be followed if no immediate repercussions can be wrought? Like, seriously, what the hell?

Sure, there are scaremongers out there, but they've always existed! Hell, they were remarkably worse when unions were thriving (back when if you were a union member, you must be a communist, or your union most be a front for some communist boogeyman), back then, than they are now, not to mention that back then people mostly got their news from corporately controlled newspapers. Such myths had to be dispelled by word of mouth.

True, there are significant legal hurdles. As Wikipedia so poignantly said,

Solidarity action is illegal in the United States. It is banned by the Sherman Antitrust Act and by the Taft-Hartley Act, which amends the National Labor Relations Act of 1935 (also known as the Wagner Act).

That being said, unions have done much better when the laws were a lot worse. Unions didn't give a fuck then, and they shouldn't now (unless they have no other leverage).

Anyways, sorry for the wall of text. I'll conclude this rant with "Aristocracy Forever", which is based on the medley of "Solidarity Forever", which is based on the medleys of Battle Hymn of the Republic and "John Brown's Body".

When the union's leaders' payoffs by the bosses have begun
There will be no labor trouble anywhere beneath the sun
For the AFL trade unions and the management are one
The union keeps us down.

Chorus:

Aristocracy forever
Aristocracy forever
Aristocracy forever
The union keeps us down.

It is we who have to suffer through the daily drudgery
While [Lane] Kirkland pulls a hundred thousand dollar salary
Though he claims to lead the workers, he is just a bourgeoisie
The union keeps us down.

(Chorus)

What do workers have in common with a labor bureaucrat
Who's a class collaborationist and a boss's diplomat
With the money from our paychecks he is sitting getting fat
The union keeps us down.

(Chorus)

They've aligned us with the mafia, the CIA and more
Serving counter-revolutions and oppressions of the poor
Till the union doesn't represent our interest anymore
The union keeps us down.

(Chorus)

In our hands we hold a power they don't even know about
They've forgotten that the workers are the union's source of clout
When the rank and file workers kick the union bosses out
Again we will be strong.

Last Chorus

Solidarity Forever
Solidarity Forever
Solidarity Forever
Again we will be strong.

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[–] 51rH0n3y84d93r 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I normally ask people who are leaving the organization; they're generally quite receptive.