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[–] haunted_backlog 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

"When the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail." Having commenced shadowbanning, I don't think they know how to stop.

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[–] bobroland [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

It's a terrible way to do it. Have the guts to stand up and tell a user why you're banning them.

Fifteen years ago I used to work in the video game industry, and I got stuck doing "community management" for a while. We had our share of bad users, and toxic members of the community, but we never would have just banned them like Reddit has taken to doing. It's vile, obscene, and eventually it's going to bite them in the ass.

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[–] Wade_W_Wilson 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

It's easier to do it and move on with the attitude "there will be more users, this is Reddit". It would take a considerable push from the top and some sort of mediation to change the culture there. I doubt that'll happen any time soon.

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[–] lofalexandria 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Welcome, I lost an account on reddit a while back that was about 10k link and 15k comment karma. I know your pain.

I am still new here myself but so far I like it and have a great feeling about it!

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[–] bobroland [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I feel pretty good about it myself. Obviously, we're nowhere near critical mass, but the steps we take to begin with will set the tone of Voat in the future.

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[–] WowAFreeBeer 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I am new here as well, just joined today. So far I have had a good experience, limited but everyone here seems pretty genuine, friendly and intelligent. Something I don't often get from Reddit.

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[–] bobroland [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

As I mentioned, it surprised me. I couldn't have told you what a redpiller was, or who SJWs were until a month ago. Imagine my surprise when I got the ban.

I've been going back and forth about how Voat can guard against that kind of crazy extremist hatred. Have to admit, I have no solutions.

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[–] GOT 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Just message the admins and get reinstated. It isn't always a big deal. I'd rather that they fight brigades and make a few mistakes along the way. They put it right in the end

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[–] bobroland [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I have to disagree.

Even if you buy the proposition that downvoting is something that needs to be fought, and I'll grant there's an discussion to be had there, blanket stealth banning is not the way to go about it. Reddit was only a small part of my life, but it was a part. By banning me without notice, or recourse they have stated what my value is to them. That's fine. My life is not such that I will go where I'm treated so poorly.

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[–] GOT 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Perhaps they want people like you to leave because you would maintain that you did nothing wrong or that you are looking for some personal treatment from a free service. I agree that shadowbans are clumsy and awful but I think they do work for getting people to reflect on their own behaviour and whether they are compatible with reddit. I wish they just had account suspensions with notification for brigading offences but I expect there is a tested reason that they don't do it. I think it is to do with creating too much dialogue.and work for them .

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[–] 123_456 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Moderators on reddit are assholes. That's why I left. Welcome to Voat, friend!

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[–] techrich 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Welcome i have been here this weekend, and so its slow. But if more people like us keep doing our thing it will get better.

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[–] jiveinthehive 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Welcome to voat. I promise even as the creepy shadowy version of yourself you may be, we still love you here.

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[–] bobroland [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Here's some love right back at you, my friend.

The shadow analogy is pretty good. We're like the pale shades in ancient myth.

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[–] jiveinthehive 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Bound to the ancient relic of Redditas, thane of Moditras, brother of Poop.

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