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[–] Codexx 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I have some thoughts on this.

  1. Mod & Admin logs. No exceptions. Basically, every action taken needs to be ascribed to a moderator or an admin making that action, and it needs to be easy to find & read. Reasons should be stated, if at all possible. That way you can look in the mod log, see the post, etc.

  2. As a corollary, could we make it so that deleted posts aren't deleted, but hidden and archived via the mod log? Reddit does this with submissions, but not comments. That way, we wouldn't see the post, but it can still be accessed via the mod log. You can't totally censor it, but you can make it so that you have to go looking for it or link it directly.

  3. Allowing mods to always be ousted can easily allow for trolling attempts. What I would recommend is site-wide rules for how many major subs you can mod for. Perhaps it can work by percentage or something, but preventing someone from moderating multiple major subreddits, and attaining power, would be a plus.

  4. Part of the problem is also groups of "friends" or collections of subs that work together and are run by the same people. Same problem. These sorts of relationships need to be exposed. Using throwaways for this stuff needs to be investigated. Admins have access to IP logs, no? At least make someone who wants to own a ton of subs take the time to have multiple VPNs to manage them, and make throwaways used to amass power a bannable offense.

  5. Shadowbans need to be for spammers, only. Or just done away with.

  6. Raids probably can't be stopped, but the defense needs to be algorithmic, not bans. Sitewide bans haven't stopped brigades, but they are used as an excuse to ban people, often for subversive content, and usually with a shadowban. Linking to posts needs to not be illegal.

There probably should be a system to remove moderators, but it needs to be something that can't be gamed, and thus probably not automated.

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[–] Property_Is_Theft [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

>Allowing mods to always be ousted can easily allow for trolling attempts.

You absolutely cannot stop Reddit cancer without being able to get rid of censorious mods. Once they get a hold of a subverse, they never let go. As a result, the number of subs controlled by censors only increases and never decreases over time. Your other proposals can slow the spread of the cancer, but without being able to decrease the number of subs that are subject to censorship, without being able to retake subs that have been taken over by SRS, you cannot reverse the problem.

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[–] PraeterNational 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Totally agree with points 1 and 2. I think that not being able to delete, only move to a well defined area (ie. have "deleted" next to "hot", "new", etc.) would make it easier for people to see when a sub is heavily censored and therefore move to a spinoff. As it is now, many of the reddit major subs are censored, but many users are unaware.

I have no problem giving mods near-free reign within their domain, but without transparency it's a license for abuse. I'll check out voat here and there, but until I see steps to prevent what's happening at reddit, it's not worth a huge investment of time.

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[–] LimblessWonder 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

Mod & Admin logs. No exceptions. Basically, every action taken needs to be ascribed to a moderator or an admin making that action, and it needs to be easy to find & read. Reasons should be stated, if at all possible. That way you can look in the mod log, see the post, etc.

This is a fantastic idea