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[–] MrHarryReems 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Transparent sub moderation would be cool.. Not sure it would work out, though. Say, for instance, someone posted something inflammatory in my sub, which I do not allow, and I remove it... At that point, everyone still sees the inflammatory post that was removed, negating the moderation. The question is one of 'Who Watches the Watchmen'.

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[–] Property_Is_Theft [S] 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago  (edited ago)

If you don't have transparent moderation, however, then it becomes impossible to discuss ousting a censorious mod. On Reddit, such mods always censor comments that criticize the censorship, so eventually the illusion is created that nobody has a problem with the censorship. (EDIT: In fact, the casual observer can't even tell that censorship is taking place.) Perhaps the most a mod should be able to do is reduce a comment's visibility (sort of like what happens when a comment's score reaches -5-- its visibility is minimized, but you can still reach the content if you're curious). Also, if a minimized comment or submission gets enough upvotes, the moderator's action should be negated completely.

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[–] Finn 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

This is interesting, but what about if that comment contains somehing illegal (Child porn for example), how would this work out?

Also, what if the subverse is brigaded by a larger one and they upvoted each other's comment, how do you prevent that?

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[–] CowbellRX 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Put all the moderated content in a separate tab that only contains moderated content. Due to needing to crosscheck the unmoderated content for context making the use of this for browsing inconvenient, 99.9% of users will only use it when someone else has made an accusation towards a moderator.

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[–] Stellar_Octopus 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

What if there was two voting systems? Normal user voting and moderator voting (both visible) the Mod voting could carry more weight in whether or not a post is 'hidden' but if enough normal users upvote it, it becomes exposed again.

Threads that need moderation ((like, say, someone posting non-original music in /v/originalmusic) are moved to a separate tab at the top of the subverse (ie hot/new/rising/moderated) , and, again, if voted on enough by users it would move back to visible in hot/new/etc.

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[–] AmishCooking 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Why couldn't we have a system to where if a mod deletes a post or comment the deleted item would show, deleted, but then you could press a button and expand the deleted content and view it. Then you could have a separate up and down vote and if a threshold is met for upvotes then the post could be undeleted. So this would basically have the same effect as jury nullification or how real democracy should work. If a law is made that a certain threshold of people don't like, then theoretically it should be overturned.

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[–] mordin_ 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I think @MrHarryReems is saying that if everyone could just view the deleted comment then what's the point of deleting it?

What you're describing sounds the same as the up/downvote system, as when a comment gets downvoted below a score threshold it collapses anyway and enough upvotes expands it and makes it more visible.

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[–] Nurdoidz 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Hm... you bring up a really good point. Sorry to say that I can't continue, here, since I don't know that much about these types of concepts.

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[–] mordin_ 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Maybe a separate meta-sub for reporting mods?

As long as there are decent admins, they could be the ones to see whether or not a moderator is being fair and remove them from a sub if needed.

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[–] VernacularOracle 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

That's the thing. Those admins could eventually be replaced by one of those who are autocratic. I'm sure some are already thinking of ways to potentially control the contents of each subverse.

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[–] MrHarryReems 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Something like that should definitely exist, and I've said it before, the admins here are great folks.