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[–] Nameless 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

I could see it's use; especially when the comment is informative but unpopular.

It probably will create one hell of a micro-management nightmare for the mods as voat gets bigger. A suggestion would to include a flair / flag option notifying the mod of the action. Otherwise you might have to implement a pseudo-gilding method based another standard other than money.

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[–] 123_456 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

This is kinda the problem with 'voats.' It doesn't tell you the reason something was upvoted. I remember on reddit there were a lot of suggestions/support for tags, but nothing was implemented. Is it too difficult, or is there a special appeal about simplicity?

A few tags could immensely help sort content. Tags like 'offensive, informative, and funny' first come to mind.

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[–] mukt 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Tags are first thing that came to my mind as well.

'offensive, informative and funny'

Would that be three tags or one?

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[–] Amarok 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

As with all things, it is up to you to provide the mechanism, and up to the moderators to use good judgement.

I can think of a myriad number of beneficial use cases for this feature. I'll use examples from reddit.

The most basic and obvious is from /r/askreddit - in their [serious] tagged threads, automoderator makes a reply telling everyone that this particular thread has been tagged as serious and therefore any bullshit puns, off topic threads, and other general nonsense will be removed. This reply is often found downvoted into oblivion at the bottom of the thread, because moronic monkeys with mice think they can tell a moderator how to run their own community by clicking blue arrows. This is exactly the kind of in-thread announcement that demands a sticky comment to set the tone of the thread.

Another example is from /r/listentothis. We used to have an informative bot that would post a ton of artist information for everything being shared in the subreddit. We badly wanted to have this information bolted onto the top of the thread, but on reddit there was no way to do that automatically. This Voat feature would have solved that problem, and we would have continued to provide it.

A general use case, often excellent rebuttals or updates or facts become known during a general comment discussion. Being able to stick the most informative rebuttal or the new information to the top of the thread would preclude a great deal of uninformed and repetitive discussion in the comment thread.

There is no defensible reason not to include this feature, period.

The objection that 'bad moderators might abuse feature x' has never and will never hold any water. That is a separate issue, solved by a vote of no confidence in the moderation team or unsubscribing from the shitty subverse and finding a better one. ;)

The real question here is... do we want only one sticky comment, or a 'sticky' flag that can attach more than one comment to the top of the discussion? This tends to turn into a discussion about a 'super upvote' feature and while that idea may have merit, I think it's best handled separately. I'd keep it to one sticky comment.

You might want to include an option (in the subverse settings) to hide vote information for the sticky comments. You wouldn't do this if stickying a user's legitimate comment, but you might want to do it on the announcements or informative auto replies I mentioned as examples. This feature would hide the vote arrows and replace the 'x points' text with 'sticky'. Actually this might be a better job for the subreddit CSS. You should definitely allow the sticky to be styled separately from the rest of the comments.

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[–] Atko [S] 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Thank you for providing these use cases. This pretty much sums up what I initially had in mind: one sticky comment per thread, stickied by a moderator for whatever reason. I always felt that reddit lacked this tool and I guess it can't hurt to try it out. So far the reactions seem mostly positive, I'll add it to backlog.

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[–] mukt 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

The real question here is... do we want only one sticky comment, or a 'sticky' flag that can attach more than one comment to the top of the discussion? This tends to turn into a discussion about a 'super upvote' feature and while that idea may have merit, I think it's best handled separately. I'd keep it to one sticky comment.

Moderators can make their own comment a sticky, this comment could in turn link to multiple user comments.
It really boils down to how good a moderator is and how much effort they can put in.

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[–] benoliver999 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

One sticky comment, just like one sticky post in a subverse, seems to make sense and have its uses.

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[–] rwbj 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Not a fan of this, at all.

Perhaps allow users themselves to do something like this once per rolling month. You would need to restrict it to established and active accounts for obvious reasons. Reddit fell apart in large part due to their moderators and I think the biggest lesson to be learned from there is to minimize powers unequally granted to the bare essentials required for reasonable spam and abuse control in each sub.

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[–] SpaceRosa 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I like this idea, to an extent. What if you had a drop-down of tags you could add to a comment and then sort comments for these the same way do you with New, Hot, and so on? That way you could get the thing you're looking for, but moderators wouldn't have to do so much. It's not so bad with smaller subs, but I think as it grows, it would become a pain to have something only mods can do. Wouldn't it also be leaving it up to their discretion? I don't much like the idea of leaving it up to one person, or only a few, to tell many what is and is not relevant or informative.

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[–] Smeyrt 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

If that happened I would want a limit on how many sticky's that can be made. I don't want to go through pages of sticky's just to get to content. I fear for some subverses that is what it would become.

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[–] 123_456 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I think it's a good idea. In theory.

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[–] foxlet 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Maybe add an user recognition flair similar to other comment promotion flags that already exist on Voat (author comments, for example). Making it float higher in the tree would be interesting but might have adverse effects later on.

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[–] goatboy 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

If it is a thread specific sticky, then it would be great. However, if it were a subverse wide sticky, then it could get clumsy and bothersome. If it were to elevate one thread over all the other threads in the sub then what happens? Would there be a growing list of stickied posts- and how would those be sorted? Would older stickies get re-stickied to bring them back up to the top by another mod? If there were dissension among the mods about what should be most stickied, would the senior mods stickies have precedence?

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[–] moe 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

If it is a thread specific sticky

Going by the original comment that spurred this idea, that's how it'd work:

@Atko: Hmm.. shouldn't voat users be able to flag informative comments and thus sticky them in large threads? I think this would be an awesome feature :)

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