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[–] ggolemg 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

Just remove mod power to delete posts. If the posts are that bad/spam they'll just simply be downvoted and never appear in 'hot' for a sub. Same thing goes for deleting comments. I understand the logic behind removing legitimate spam, but it seems it's always taken too far, and spam is defined to broadly to include anything that isn't the same opinion as said mod.

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[–] Amarok 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

The issue with this solution is that when spam outnumbers regular posts, everyone leaves. If you have to sort through four pages of crap to find one good post, you'll give up. Would you really downvote 99/100 posts every single day or would you find a place that has a better signal to noise ratio? That's what most people do.

The new queue has to maintain a certain level of cleanliness and on-topicness for the subverse's subject matter. If it's too off topic, people leave. If it's too polluted with repetition or spam, people leave. This reduces the effective voting pool one has available to deal with these problems, so once it gets started it can snowball at an alarming rate.

I'd propose a slightly different solution.

Imagine where you now see "new" "hot" "top" two more categories appear.

"Trash" - exactly what it says. Whatever the moderators remove, or whatever a certain number of reports indicate, or whatever bots and spamfighting tools identify can be tossed into this trash tab. It won't show up in new or hot or top once it is identified as trash. It'll still show up on the trash tab, however. Some mechanism for subscribers to flag a trashed post for revival might also be good, sort of the opposite of the reports that can get something thrown in there.

"Curated" - This is an in-subreddit BestOf. Works just like a saved tab does for one's account, except this one is a saved pool for the subreddit at large. The best threads, discussions, rule change threads, etc - all of the important things get flagged as curated. These also still show up in hot or new or top.

Seems like this kind of horizontal sorting is the best way out of this problem as it'll let subscribers involve themselves if they want to. Most will not.

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[–] ggolemg 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

I like it, especially the trash tab, but where each post in it has a "to live" vote counter that will move it back to the main sub.