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[–] PuttItOut 2 points 88 points (+90|-2) ago 

Yes. We are looking into the best way to implement this. It won't be long until this issue will be null and void.

We have yet to decide how to deal with the people doing this.

It might be a very wise idea for those who have done this to remove their downvotes before we make a decision.

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[–] PuttItOut 0 points 32 points (+32|-0) ago 

Good point.

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[–] Doctor_Pooh 4 points 13 points (+17|-4) ago 

Personally I think you shouldn't do much past preventing automated down voting because we all agree to have the right to say what we want but on the same hand accept that there can be consequences for the things we say. In Australia our version of white trash rednecks which we call bogans put it very simply, talk shit get hit and that's exactly what's happened here. They've upset someone enough for them to take a virtual beating and that's the price you pay for having a point based voting system on a site that promotes free speech. You can try to stop it using a few different methods like time based restrictions for downvotes between users but you know full well in the digital world a workaround will exist for every method and that you won't know about it until it becomes painfully obvious. If you happen to decide to leave the option available for all though but make it difficult so that a person has to waste a ton of their time and energy to vent their rage on us they'll take that openly available option instead of working outside of the system and I think instead of feeling upset at losing their internet points so quickly most will feel pride at pissing someone off that much.

On a side note I hate saying it but coddling these whinging children and making slight threats against their bullies is going to turn them into SJW types and the downvoters into believing that voat is merely reddit 2.0 due to their previously found freedom to say what they like and express themselves being limited by the admin because someone had their fee fees hurt. Obviously limits need to be in place like preventing automation but for the love of god don't go down the reddit path because this place has far too much potential for greatness and really at the end of the day if users want reddit like rules they know where to type the URL.

Thanks for the site and all your hard work though. You guys and the site are awesome!

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[–] PuttItOut 0 points 19 points (+19|-0) ago 

If you knew what I know you'd have a different view. We have abuse in this area that needs to addressed. For example users with 300+ CCP being dropped to negatives by a single person. Now limits are being imposed on the target concerning their voting privileges.

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[–] TheFatMistake [S] 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

That's cool! It just feels like it gives one malicious person too much power.

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[–] sodalis 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Commenting here to draw attention to my ongoing debate about GMO shills in /v/technology. I feel I am being bullied unfairly. Thanks for your hard work. I look forward to the improvements.

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[–] SwiftCase 0 points 24 points (+24|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Man, that is so wrong, that kind of vindictiveness shouldn't be tolerated. Unfortunately, I don't think there's a way to prevent it unless there was some kind of limit imposed on how many times you can downvote a user's comments within 24 hours or something.

Edit: I feel like this will have to be taken care of at an Administrative level. If a user is doling out a lot of downvotes in a short amount of time, the user should be automatically flagged for review and investigated.

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[–] PintOfBees 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

Just being unable to downvoat anything older than 48 hours would do it.

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[–] IdSay 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

bad advice, not engaging the idiot lets the tumor grow. we just need better antibiotics.

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[–] Reow 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I totally agree with this - so few people look to themselves for a solution. The only problem I see is that sometimes it's too late by the time you realize you've fucked up. Other times it's not even the person you're responding to who thinks you deserve a bashing.

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[–] bbartokk 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Nice tip, thanks.

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[–] Robotrollcall- 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

This happened to me. I posted in here about it as well.

A timed downvote system seems to be the best idea someone brought up in that thread. 5 or 10 minutes perhaps.

There was also discussion of a downvoat cap that could be placed on a person to person basis for a period of time.

I have no idea how hard any of that would be to implement.

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[–] TheFatMistake [S] 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

Yeah for sure!. It was my last conversation. I was arguing about /r/rapingwomen. I think the sub incited violence, he asked if I had any evidence that the subreddit incited violence and my response was this:

If I unapologetically tell people they need to kill a certain person, but no one ever does it, I am still inciting violence. My speech doesn't need to be successful. If you had gone onto the sub before it was banned you would see posts giving advice on the best and easiest ways to rape women along with philosophy on why rape is not wrong. Don't think with emotion about this, think logically. It's hard to argue that is not inciting violence. It's the speech that matters, not whether it was successful.

To which he responded:

So you can't bring me a single criminal conviction?

(We're talking about convictions for inciting violence here, not anything else. You don't even have that.)

I accept your concession, you fucking lying piece of shit.

This is my response that I believe totally set him off. I got a bit patronizing after he called me a liar and a piece of shit:

Easier there soldier. OBVIOULSY not. Please I implore you to actually read what I write this time. Take the time to comprehend the words. I absolutely can't connect a criminal conviction to an anonymous subreddit, but you're ignoring the entire argument I made. Say you go to an airport and shout "BOMB! EVERYONE GET DOWN!". Absolutely no one gets hurt, but you get rightfully arrested and what you did was still illegal. That's the same thing that happened with /r/rapingwomen. It's explicitely encouraging people to do violent things to others. It absolutely 100% does not matter if there's no evidence it is actually responsible for instances of violence. That does not matter AT ALL. Not one single bit.

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[–] escape 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Oh yeah it's OP's fault. Not the asshole who went in and spam downvoted him.

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[–] toto2379 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

that guy's downvoting spree backfired : in the end, he increased your total CCP instead of decreasing it to oblivion.

Enjoy being part of the 100+ CCP club early

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[–] reed 2 points 4 points (+6|-2) ago 

Im going to go through your comments and upvote every one of them, unless they're you being an ass head or something. For the next ten minutes, anyway. Dinner is almost ready.

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[–] Gamerdog6482 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

If you disable that, they'd just copy/paste the URL into their url bar and vote you down manually.

Disable that, somehow, and they'd do a custom google search on voat for your username and get to your comments that way.

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In other words, no. Removing vote buttons from the comments page means that you can't do it "Imgur style" (i.e. set up a simple JS script that downvotes every comment currently loaded, causing a user's karma to drop hundreds of points in seconds), which is roughly as much as you'll ever get.

You can prevent botting, sure. But you can't prevent somebody from manually typing in URLs or even crawling through old threads.

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[–] Beers 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

You could probably tell by looking at total amount of downvotes a user has received across all comments in the last X hours. I can't think of any real scenario where someone's comments, new and old, all get downvoted in the same day or two by a similar amount, even if different accounts and IPs are used for each downvote.

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[–] AzureNova 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Barriers can't flat-out prevent a determined person from downvoting, but when it's more difficult (or tedious) the brigading happens less frequently. It might not be perfect, but it sounds like an overall benefit

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