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[–] CastaneaDentata 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

That's one of the thins I always thought was a flaw with reddit (though I know it's an inherent aspect of it)--things garner attention, people comment, get all excited/worked up about it... and then it disappears after 24 hours.

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[–] dart11 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Hijacking the top comment here to raise awareness about /v/tppartnership as well. It's a subverse specifically for information, news, awareness, discussion, etc. on the TPP. We invite everyone to come help spread the word, as this is an incredibly important issue.

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[–] tribblepuncher [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Thank you for making me (and others) aware of this sub. I will be perusing it when I get a chance, which ought to be today or tomorrow.

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[–] DrEggman 2 points 7 points (+9|-2) ago 

Stickies should be chosen by moderators, not by the admins (unless they're acting as moderators in their subs). It should be a thing for news-related subreddits, but not necessarily for others. If people choose to not read about TPP, it's their right. No matter how much you and I would disagree.

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[–] tribblepuncher [S] 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

There was already a TPP sticky on the front page that got taken down some time ago.

Also, as far as I know, front page stickies stay on the front page, and don't perpetuate into subverses.

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[–] DrEggman 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

Yes, but.. there is no need for a front page sticky everyone sees. Not everyone is interested in the topic. Front page stickies should be reserved to topics that are relevant/important to everyone on Voat, such as important announcements.

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[–] mangusman07 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I fully support a sticky, many people still don't k ow of the horrors of the TPP. It may also test that voat really is as free as they say...

Edit: a word

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[–] AmyAcker 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

It may also test that voat really is as free as they say...

Atko had this TPP post as sticky for a while :)

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[–] zaiguy 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

As a Canadian I have no idea what TPP is, nor do I care, nor would I be able to do anything about it even if I did care enough.

Stickies on the front page for a US-only issue on a site used by a large international audience seems rather....well, American.

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[–] AmyAcker 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

The TPP is a global issue; not just an American issue. It affects twelve countries:

The US, Japan, Australia, Peru, Malaysia, Vietnam, New Zealand, Chile, Singapore, Canada, Mexico, and Brunei Darussalam.

EFF: Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement

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[–] mangusman07 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

While I am aware this comment is a month old (used to getting mobile alerts for comment responses) you do realize it is a multi-national trade agreement which also includes Canada...

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[–] calmlikeabomb 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

The US upgraded Malaysia in human rights just to get this bill passed, even when they changed nothing....

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[–] tehyosh 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

what can i do as a single person to oppose this?

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[–] tribblepuncher [S] 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago  (edited ago)

If you are in the United States, you can contact your Congressional representatives and tell them not to vote for the TPP or anything associated with the TPP. You can also ask them what they've done to try to get the TPP text released (chances are, nothing, but if enough people say it, they just might get the wheels turning for a scant few of them). I believe there's also a We The People petition you can sign to release the text of the TPP, but I can't find it. You could also contact major news outlets and insist that they start covering both the good and bad aspects of the TPP, particularly the secrecy that surrounds it.

If you are outside the United States, but in an affected country (there are many, including Japan, Australia and Canada) you can also contact your representatives. I think it has already passed in some countries, but there may still be wiggle room.

If you are in the US or in another affected country (or anywhere), becoming more familiar with it can also help:

https://www.eff.org/issues/tpp

http://www.ibtimes.com/tpp-trade-deal-would-curb-freedom-speech-online-internet-activists-warn-1883780 (this is just one issue, but it's an important one)

http://www.exposethetpp.org/index.html

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150713/07085031625/white-house-so-desperate-to-get-tpp-approved-it-agrees-to-whitewash-mass-graves-human-trafficking-malaysia.shtml - This one is politically charged, but it should give you an idea of just how badly they want this secret deal passed - which should give you serious pause

The TTIP has also been mentioned in comments. Although I don't think it's got as severe of an impact as TPP (particularly for Voat users, which are believed to be primarily from the United States and Canada if web demographic analysis is accurate), you can bet that if TPP comes through, something else will be around sooner or later to finish the job for other countries, so try to find out more about the TTIP so that when it starts getting time for that to pass, more people are aware of it. It is also not as urgent; TTIP is slated for 2016 at the earliest, TPP could be done in weeks in the US and I believe is already done in some countries.

Anywhere you are, you can help to spread the word that this is happening and that action must be taken NOW, not later.

People in the United States may be aided in finding out the contact information of their representatives by using this site:

http://whoismyrepresentative.com/

https://www.opencongress.org/people/zipcodelookup

http://www.house.gov/htbin/findrep?ZIP

http://www.senate.gov (look in the upper right hand corner for lookup information)

Remember - just because you aren't in a country this effects, doesn't mean this doesn't impact you. If this starts becoming a standard in the US and a lot of other countries, it's likely to spread.

Anyway I'm cutting this off for now, I've already said too much politically related for the suggestion subverse.

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[–] tehyosh 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

thank you. unfortunately i'm not from the US, but i'm sure that it will impact europe in the same way sooner or later. gotta find out what to do from across the pond

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[–] dart11 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Just wanted to let you know, there is a new subverse, /v/tppartnership, that's meant to serve specifically for TPP awareness, news, and discussion as well.

EDIT: We'd also appreciate any more assistance you could provide. We could always use more related news and more ways to act against the legislation.

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[–] Luk3 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

My country is not affected. Is there anything that I can help still?

[–] [deleted] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

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[–] tribblepuncher [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Indeed. I'm hoping it is brought back, and sooner rather than later. That is in part what this comment is about.

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[–] ximian 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

TPP will start the trade wars. Countries not in the TPP will get shafted, since US & the 5 eyes anyways drives a lot of international trade & politics

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[–] V3ryl3git 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

At minimum, a sticky on v/news or related subverses. However it would make more sense to sticky TTIP seeing how voat it based in an Atlantic country.

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[–] tribblepuncher [S] 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Not necessarily.

TPP is much more urgent. As far as I know TTIP isn't going to go in front of anyone until 2016 at the earliest. TPP may be a done deal in a lot of countries within a few weeks or months. Plus, I think (but am not sure) that TPP is the legislation with heavier impacts to things like the Internet and free speech.

Additionally the majority of Voat readers are, if the demographics analysis is correct, in the United States. If TPP passes you can bet something else nasty is going to follow up in other countries in a few years, so it's best to try to squash this as heavily as possible now and make it that much harder for future attempts.

EDIT: I believe I should clarify. I am not saying that TTIP isn't important. But there is a lot less time to do something about TPP than TTIP, and as such the bulk of the attention is on TPP for the moment.

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