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[–] ZackVixACD 2 points 140 points (+142|-2) ago 

It shouldn't be called gilding. It should be called Grazing. You know, like feeding grass to the goat... I will see myself out.

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[–] j_ 0 points 98 points (+98|-0) ago  (edited ago)

There should be a page with a picture of the Voat goat and you can pay to feed it. Feeding it raises a counter on the page. Occasionally the goat poops, and if you were the last to feed it before it pooped you get a badge on your profile. The page lists all the times the goat has pooped. The pooping algorithm is kept secret and is the only non-open-source code on Voat.

Judging by the success of mobile games I guarantee this will make Voat a billion dollars and launch a line of Pooping Goat merchandise and a spin-off cartoon series.

edit: since this is my top comment now, I’d like to celebrate by sharing this with all of you: /v/www. Enjoy.

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[–] Ina_Pickle 0 points 28 points (+28|-0) ago 

What an absolutely cute idea. It would be like a virtual petting zoo. Pay a $1 and get a handful of Goat Feed.

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[–] SpookyTJ 1 points 13 points (+14|-1) ago 

I can't upvoat because I'm out but this is unbelievably genius

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[–] anotherRefugee 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Why not substitute the goat feed for grass seed.

Users donate and receive grass seed, which they can hold onto for later or immediately throw in the Voat pasture to keep the pasture well covered with nutritious grass for the lovely Goat. The choice of holding for later and throwing out the seed, can be sort of like The Button. A visual timer (the quality of the pasture) can based on the average server load or the last time someone throw out seed. Throwing out seed in times of high server load can revive the pastures visuals and make the Goat smile while donating after a period of time when few have been throwing out seed can also revive the pastures visuals and gain a Goat smile. Maybe badges associated maybe not.

Symbolically, donations to Voat help make our community healthy and strong.

I feel that Goat poop will create the redshit-style puns and circlejerking about poop that many other refugees would be happy to do away with as they often cover up real discussion.

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[–] jeangenie18 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

I....I like that actually. "Here you go, grazed!"

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[–] NDuncan 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

inb4 Scrounge is the new Reddit silver.

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[–] Caboose_Calloway 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

edit: Thanks for the grass kind stranger. Mooo!

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[–] 1982 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

I use Voat exclusively AND drink soylent....God I feel like the biggest hipster right now. Excuse me, I have a local record shop I need to ride to on my penny farthing

What have I become.

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[–] AidenKerr 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Soylent.

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Soylent...

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[–] 272148? 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Yes, "algae"...

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[–] Gooust 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

That's fine for the act, but the thing itself could just be called "grass".

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[–] Ina_Pickle 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Just so long as it's not called weed. I don't want to have to tell the people in my life that I bought weed to feed the goat.

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[–] PuttItOut 0 points 107 points (+107|-0) ago 

We have dropped everything to work on Voat. Including sleep, food, and family. This caught us at the worst time possible code wise and time wise, with a major update to Voat's code base looming right around the corner and @Atko on vacation after graduating.

Please know that there is much more than appears on the surface, but I promise you and every Voater here that Voat will rise to this challenge. There is no other option. We all need this. The world needs this. It will happen. Promise.

It just might take a day or two longer than we'd like. ;)

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[–] Apoplectic1 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

Alright, who let the IT guy out of the cave?

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[–] raisin 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Wait, WHAT?! So he left without consulting you or me... But... But...

hugs plush unicorn, cries

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[–] ChillyHellion 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

We appreciate all of the time and hard work. It must be rewarding to see your project picking up interest so quickly. I'm impressed with how well Voat is weathering the sudden flurry of activity, all things considered. Working on a site while it's in use must be a bit like changing a tire while the car is in motion.

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[–] Codexx 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

We appreciate the work you guys are putting in. Sucks that this came at a bad time. A lot of former redditors are software engineers. Is there a way for us to contribute to the codebase in any way?

But in all seriousness, once you guys get this worked out, I'd focus on competing on performance. Reddit errors out daily, and its performance is the worst it's been in years (since right before Gold was implemented and they promised to use the money to solve these issues). You could win over a lot of people just by consistently being up and having comments go through in a timely manner.

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[–] trebach 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Here is the source code: https://github.com/voat/voat

There are 79 issues that need to be fixed on the site.

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[–] PuttItOut 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

We won't be running a patchy site. We just need a little time to get some things organized.

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[–] KL1 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Well, then good luck. Like OP said, this can be a major milestone for Voat. It most probably will end with 1 of 2 outcomes but either of them will have a profound effect (whether positive or negative) on your project.
Just to give you my view as a user in the past couple of days, I've tried more than 5 times (@ different hours) to post or comment but couldn't. Browsing is too slow as well. Not giving up just yet on Voat but it is crucial that this matter gets resolved as soon as possible and in an efficient way (so hopefully no hickups again in the near future).
Keep up the good work.

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[–] greenbrain 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

You make this sound like it's life or death! Let's relax and be patient, two weeks from now the site will be meeting current demand, it doesn't have to today!

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[–] the_federalist 0 points 29 points (+29|-0) ago 

Why not just donate directly to Voat?

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[–] ChillyHellion 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

The lure of gilding comments is that it supports Voat and gives recognition to a good comment at the same time, which might draw more revenue than direct donations alone.

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[–] HorzaDeservedBetter 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

gives recognition to a good comment at the same time

I don't agree. A comment can be at -150 but gilded twice.

Moreover, it gives the impression that a comment is good. For instance, if I gild a comment that was just posted people will tend to upvote it more, confusing the fact that it has been gilded with quality.

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[–] DreamsAndSchemes 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

'This post inspired someone to donate to Voat'

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[–] johnlocke90 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Because people donate more when you make donating fun. A frivolous thing like Gold encourages a lot more people to donate.

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[–] MarcoZ 0 points 24 points (+24|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Can we do without gilding posts though? It feels like it has become some sort of anti popular opinion weapon at Reddit, see /r/NegativeWithGold

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[–] ViolentlyMasticates 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

Yeah, I dislike the idea. The guilded posts are often the ones that are most upvoted and kind of cause a snow balling effect.

Posts should be judged on their own merit, not on the merit given to them by those with money.

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[–] FnT 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

They're never judged just on their own merit though, the points influence the perception.

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[–] johnlocke90 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

If you think of "gold" as a reward for the post, sure. The cool thing about gold though is that it pays the website.

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[–] Loopins 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Its also much more convenient and a good reminder to people who use the site to donate giving "gold" to specific posts.

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[–] DreamsAndSchemes 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

You mean like my post on reddit, promoting voat, that was gilded twice?

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[–] farqanator 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

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[–] mindful 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

This link the discussion started by Atko's about never showing any ads should be higher up.

"I'd choose the mercy of users any time, over mercy of corporations. Also, I wouldn't make a decision "I think is in the best interest of voat" without consulting the paying members first." - Atko

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[–] Borden 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I like the idea of being able to give Voat some money, but the concept of "gilding" posts turns me off. On reddit, gilding turned into something people wanted to receive, but not something they wanted to buy. For a long time gold was something you bought for yourself, not for other users, and I found that to be a much better concept. After gilding comments became a thing, people started catering to the crowd that gilded. People started competing for the funniest joke to get the most upvotes and hopefully gilded, and, as someone said before, it created a kind of snowball effect. People even resorted to asking for gold, and treating it like it was the ultimate reward for a witty comment instead of something that helped reddit. No one bought it for themselves anymore, they just acted like it was a reward. I don't think it should be like that here. I think it should be a kind of donation and be treated as such instead of being treated as a reward. Let people donate anywhere from one dollar up to 100 dollars, or maybe leave the cap open. I just wouldn't like to see it as a form of mega-goating and would rather it be something that tied to the buyer's account. This site is a lot like Reddit, and that's good in a lot of ways, but it is not Reddit and we need to set ourselves apart from that site instead of grow more like it. I am all for the idea of giving Voat money. In fact, I will donate as soon as I can, I just think it would be best to not turn the donations into some form of reward for another user's post so we don't devolve to posting with the sole purpose of getting 'gilded'.

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[–] Wafflebutt 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Very well said. I like the donation model, and maybe just a simple badge would be enough? Or if people wanted more bang for their buck, maybe a special flair or username in a differnt colour....sort of like, I'm a charter member?

Oooorrrrrr....make the upvotes of the people who donated worth a bit more? That one would take a ton of thought, maybe require plateaus or something, but perhaps.

I don't need any of the above myself, since not everyone is in the position to donate (and submissions and comments are worth a whole lot to this site too) but if it inspires people, maybe the simple badge would work.

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[–] snakepaws 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I'd be down with a cool little goat badge (or something) on the account for donating X amount. Maybe one badge for someone who donated a month's-worth, and a fancier one (goat with a monocle?) for a year. Shrug.

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[–] Jax 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Or....

Atko could put a few ads on the site and make way more money and afford even better servers.

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[–] the_federalist 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

Atko floated the idea of soliciting donations or charging a small monthly subscription fee in lieu of ads. I think that would be preferable. Otherwise you have to start compromising in order to make yourself attractive for ad buyers. And then you end up where reddit is at the moment. Personally, I think having a subscription, either voluntary or mandatory, is a better solution. Tbh I would prefer a mandatory subscription of something on the order of US$2 or so to act as a mild disincentive so that the community doesn't get too big too quickly.

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[–] Patchface- 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

A subscription wont work because new users will not subscribe to something they haven't had a chance to use.

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[–] oppy1984 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

If advertisers can be found that won't result in comprising the integrity of voat I'd be fine with a single static ad per page, otherwise I'd say find an alternative.

As for the subscription model, I'd be fine with that too. I do think it should be voluntary though, and mandatory subscription would drive to many people away. $2 USD would be good, I've already decided to donate $5 USD per month via bitcoin so $2 per month would be nothing.

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[–] quizboy 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

A mandatory subscription, no matter how low the price, will turn away 99% of users. I don't think it would be in voat's best interest to do that, especially for a site that depends on its user-base for content. IMO, it has to be done in a voluntary way for this to be successful.

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[–] Wonderboy 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I don't like this, having ads means you can choose to look at them/click them, ignore them or block them. Paying a fee means you physically feel it every month, which is way more noticeable. The site is a community, the bigger the population the more rich the content and discussion, if we get numbers swell in waves due to Reddit doing something stupid then that will happen whether or not there is a $2 fee. We should be embracing growth over the long term though so in times where its only 5-10 new accounts a day they are not dissuaded from joining.

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[–] ryelt 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

How about ads on the left of the site, sidebars on the right? Both are mostly empty space now, and a couple non intrusive ads on the left wouldnt bother me

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[–] mossless 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

We need an alternative to reddit. I'll throw a few bucks in a tip jar to help pay for some servers while they get grazing implemented.

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