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[–] Othmar_Regin 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

About the bag not being warm enough, I made this mistake my self. I put all my clothes on in the bag, that does 2 things 1st your base clothes will get perspirated thus you need to change your underwear before sleep, 2nd with so much clothes on there was too little air in the bag, remember it's the air that insulates not the material.

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[–] Titus-of-Voat [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I thought the less air to heat up the better. That is why mummy bags are warmer because they are tighter?

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[–] Othmar_Regin 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Nope, air = insulation, that is why fluffy things are the warmest.

One time I drove to my sleeping location, ie. no sweat and I was warm in -10°C the other time I hiked and did not change clothes and I was cold in 0°C

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[–] elitch2 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I made a bunch of bag liners out of fleece blankets. You sleep naked in the liner, put your next days' clothes in the foot of your bag. Snug as a fucking bug.

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[–] Memorexem 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Serious not sarcastic question: Do you overnight hike much? I'm thinking you don't, and that's why you were so cold. Your said you were wearing all your clothes, yeah? Including the clothes you were hiking in? That's, literally, one of the worst things you can do if you want to keep warm. All that sweat from the day sticks around and cools rapidly at night, making you freeze.

Next time, try packing a pair of pants and a shirt that you will only sleep in. I've done it in colder weather with just a bag and you'll notice the difference immediately.

Glad to hear your had fun, though! That's what really matters.

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[–] Titus-of-Voat [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I do, but first time in the winter. I did not notice sweat being any issue. It seemed to wick away well. I could try what you suggest though. Although I am trying to carry as little as possible.

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[–] Memorexem 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

The sweat will 'wick away', yes, but they just mean it's being pulled away from where is created. You won't really notice it, until your have to bed down for the night. I bring a thin pair of sleep pants and a shirt, it adds a few ounces, but I'll carry a bit more to not freeze, lol. I'd say carry your normal gear next time, with those, so you can see the difference. Time after that, you can leave more of the stuff you don't need.

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[–] NeedleStack 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

Sounds great! For your mid layer you could try a wicking but warm merino wool hoodie/vest from SmartWool and the like. I use their base layers and they are tremendous. They can be pricey but the quality is good and should last you a few years.

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[–] Titus-of-Voat [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

That vest looks really nice. Thanks for the tip.

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[–] piratse 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Don't wear your pants when you sleep. Take off your clothes and ball them up inside the sleeping bag. Let that body heat do work inside the sleeping bag. In the military we slept in underwear inside the bags (yes in the snow). Edit:posted this before I saw everyone else basically telling you the same thing.

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[–] Titus-of-Voat [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

no problem. I'm actually glad so many said the same thing, gives more credibility to it.

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[–] rkfs 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Seeing as how my favourite trick for sleeping in the great outdoors during colder weather isn't mentioned, here it goes. Essentially all you need is an extra pair of socks and a few extra rocks for your fireplace/reflector. Heat up the stones slowly around the edges of the fire, then put them in a sock and put the entire package of heat in your sleeping bag. Depending on the size of the stones, you can get them to radiate heat for an hour or so. Replace the hot rocks as necessary to keep your warmth up.

Don't remember if you mentioned doing this either, but building a reflector on the other side of the fire can make a huge difference, both in temperature and amount of wind.

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[–] Titus-of-Voat [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I've seen it mentioned where people do a similar trick heating up water and putting it in a Nalgene bottle. I didn't have much of a fire to speak of. Everything was really wet.

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[–] Othmar_Regin 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Fire is nice, but it won't burn for more than 2h on it's own and you can't be too close because sparks will ruin your sleeping bag.

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[–] M346 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I spent a night at 39-40 degrees hiking with only a 33 degree bag and some cloths, that sucked. I wrapped my hammock around me while I slept on the ground for any extra warmth.

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[–] StatusQuip 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Winter camping is a lot of work but pays off big. 35# is pretty light for winter, so I'm assuming no snow? Snow shoes and crampons can add 10 lbs to that, and no tent? That would add a lot of warmth and make the longer and dark winter nights more enjoyable. But winter tents are either very heavy or expensive, but don't buy a 4 season tent unless you know you will need it(40+mph winds and/or heavy snow loads).

Also, I believe most sleeping bags rating are based off the user wearing a base layer to sleep. I suggest 150-200wt wool tops and bottoms. A 5deg bag should have been fine at those temps.

A couple other tips, cliff/power bars become blocks of solid hate at cold temps. Even if there is liquid water, it can be too cold to drink. Tea is great for making snow/ice melted water taste better. Don't be ashamed if you are only making .5mile/hour in deep snow.

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[–] Titus-of-Voat [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I brought some microspikes in case of snow, but it was mostly mud and I did not need them. The first day started out at ~42 degrees and it rained for a solid three hours, killing any of the snow that was left.

I did bring a tent, but it was a light 3 season. It would have done very little to protect me from wind, but at least it kept me dry.

I know what you mean about the cliff bars. I keep some in my trunk and yeah, you'll break your teeth trying to eat a frozen one.

Sounds like I'm going to have to incorporate that wool base layer just to sleep in. A couple others have made that suggestion as well.

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[–] ilikeskittles 3 points 2 points (+5|-3) ago 

You know I think Holiday Inn rents rooms by the night. :P

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[–] Titus-of-Voat [S] 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

They get pissed when I light fires in them.

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[–] ilikeskittles 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

Well I can see that.

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