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[–] edistojim 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago
Got to remember that these are the same idiots that turned away help from other power company line crews because they weren't unionized. Serious retardation in Jersey.
[–] Broc_Lia 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
Good article. I thought it was going to be about the gun roundups after Katrina.
[–] derram 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
https://archive.fo/fYRky :
'Should such a disaster come, it will be my right to bear arms that will protect my family and neighbors. '
'I shot my dad’s M1 Carbine; several of my friends had small bore shotguns and even a few pistols. '
'Faith in government should be tempered by the reality that in the end we are the protectors of our own well-being. '
'Like the Framers, I simply do not have enough faith in government or humanity to dismiss the Second Amendment as a primitive leftover from a less civilized age. '
'The Framers had little faith in such a collective body either to protect us from itself or, during times like Sandy, from one another. '
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[–] lettersofmarque ago
I have a theory, I believe there are 4 types of people responses to any event divided by can/can't deal types who are either generous (good) or selfish (evil):
My graphic illustration skills are piss but maybe I'll get to putting into a diagram to show crossover; e.g. the "can't handle" intersecting with a Parasite creates a despot with Looters or prostitution ring with Beggars, while the "can't handles" interacting with the Salt of the Earth creates either a survivor camp (Beggars) or the need for guns and Roof Koreans (Looters).
More examples:
It's a working theory that's needs some fleshing out but that's my 2 cents on it, and definitely agree with the point of the article - good guys needs guns because wolves, whether the starving or opportunist variety, exist everyday and come out at the worst time.
[–] Thisismyvoatusername 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
I think the Parasite category is a more nuanced. There is nothing wrong with driving a hard bargain if one controls scarce resources. Too many people believe increased prices during disasters are immoral. But pricing serves to insure efficient allocation. So, sure, if someone drives a hard bargain purely out of a sadistic desire to derive pleasure from others’ hardship, it is bad. But just because others are forced to agree to terms they normally wouldn’t doesn’t mean the parasite is acting in a bad way.
[–] lettersofmarque 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
I struggle with that exact issue. Does the line of Unconscionability shift in a time of crisis? Does adherence to social contract oblige me or create a duty to sustain the lives of others, even to my detriment, or may I drive a hard bargain even to the point of denying life sustaining material (food, water) to my advantage?
I believe I am allowed to survive and provide for my family at others expense but I cannot escape the nagging necessity of the observance of some measure of charity when the difference is the life or death of others through starvation of exposure. How much is enough is my personal dilemma. If I have stores of 52 weeks of food for a family of four am I obliged to part with one week's worth, one month's worth, half, or some other amount to appease my conscience?
I suppose that answer comes at the time with no one but me to judge myself. But then again, if property rights deteriorate into a state of nature this exercise becomes academic anyway.
As always, appreciate your comments. Thanks.
[–] Lag-wagon ago (edited ago)
I'm "I can handle it and generous"... To an extent. I will not place myself or my family it harms way.
[–] lettersofmarque ago
I think that choice would be a profound struggle. It's hard to refuse someone looking for food, but that's what makes you generous to begin with.
[–] con77 1 point 0 points 1 point (+1|-1) ago
so. niggers