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[–] Wahaha 10 points -7 points (+3|-10) ago 

Couldn't the war on drugs be easily won by a zero tolerance policy? Death sentences for everyone doing drugs would probably end the "war" fast, the problems are the criminal networks living off that market. Once it goes away either through legalization or zero tolerance, they'll just find something else to profit from and it won't be something legal.

It's hard for me to empathize with people doing drugs, since I never understood the point of doing drugs in the first place. I think it would be better if people stopped doing that kind of stuff and that includes tobacco, alcohol and sugar.

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[–] fancypantsmanface 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

Define drug.

Tell me you take nothing that alters your physical or mental state and then apply the same logic. It's no worse than half the other stuff people take that isn't illegal.

Banning anything sends it underground and only to the profit of the criminal elements in society. Doesn't matter if it's alcohol during prohibition or heroin.

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[–] Wahaha 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I take nothing that alters my physical or mental state. I'm not for zero tolerance, but neither am I for legalization. Both leads to lots of criminal energy looking for a new job. Taking out those criminals would be a good first step, but that is hard, I guess.

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[–] BurqaFart 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Coffee and alcohol fall under that blanket drug category. Death sentences for coffee? Fuck you. Glad you’re not significant enough to pass laws.

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[–] Wahaha 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

You're not good at reading comprehension, are you?

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[–] TinLegionnaire 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Well yea, we could "win" it even faster by nuking the whole planet, then no one would ever do anything bad for themselves.

Legalize all vice "crime" and what would they have left? thieves guild?= High risk/Low reward, especially if people's right to self-defense is respected. Tax fraud?= could work, and could be reigned in by streamlining/simplifying/abolishing taxes.

As for you're zero tolerance policy assumption, no, it would never work. So long as humans are in charge and enforcing the law, they'd just make exceptions for themselves and their friends. Look at prisons, by in large it's not people sneaking drugs in, it's the guards and people working at the prison who are selling. How many narcotics units that we know of have been caught dealing? how many politicians? How many in those positions simply haven't been caught? All your zero tolerance policy does is consolidate evil people into the government (because you're permitting them to kill their competition).

I've never met someone who didn't have a vice of one kind or another, and everyone who condemns the vices of others makes excuses for their own.

I guess the real question is how many people are you willing to kill (knowing innocents will be among them) and how enslaved are you willing to be all to ultimately fail anyway as your masters are only going to excuse themselves anyway?

I agree humanity could accomplish a lot if we were all busy little worker drones who never did anything unhealthy or dangerous, but the notion that you can inflict that on a society is foolish at best.

Also, what gives you the right to violently rob people to pay for your little project and will you be accountable for when it goes wrong? or is accountability just for others because of your "good intentions"?

How about we just hold people accountable when they harm another and leave them alone in all other cases, least we end up causing far more problems than we claim to be trying to fix.

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[–] TheAntiZealot 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

what gives you the right to violently rob people to pay for your little project and will you be accountable for when it goes wrong? or is accountability just for others because of your "good intentions"?

You just defined "government!"

sheds a joyful tear

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[–] Doglegwarrior 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Man you said it alot better then me with alot less calling the guy a fucking idiot.. good work

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[–] Wahaha 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

That's a lot of text coming from someone that didn't understand what I was writing. I'm not for zero tolerance, that was just an example which leads to similar problems as legalization does. Once the black market for drugs disappears for whatever reasons, you've got yourself a problem. Think about it. You're a big crime syndicate getting rich from selling people drugs, but now that doesn't work, because drugs got legalized. What are you going to do next? You've got plenty of dirty money, distribution routes and manpower. The last time that happened, when prohibition was lifted, I think they switched over to drugs.

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[–] Doglegwarrior 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Just look at prohibition of alcohol! It worked out great.. but I agree let's ban alcohol, Tabasco(God no dont ban Tabasco, I mean tobacco), then aspirin and tylonol.. look how many people die from tylenol and aspirin... you sense block of wood... every Muslim country has the death penalty for drugs China did.. u think those countries dont have drugs..m you fucking idiot