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[–] Pawn 0 points 78 points (+78|-0) ago 

pussy pass denied.

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[–] L3D 2 points 54 points (+56|-2) ago 

Impressive takedown.

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[–] VanGoghingSomewhere 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

he didn't even have to sweep the leg

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[–] BentAxel 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

That can't be good for him. She looks "Knocked the Fuck Out."

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[–] DigitalRefugee 1 points 14 points (+15|-1) ago 

Pfft. Her head hardly touched the ground. She's faking.

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[–] aileron_ron 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Yes, I bet a high school boy could do the same with most woman.

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[–] TheDude2 0 points 42 points (+42|-0) ago 

Rule 1: Don't attack anyone unless you're willing to get clocked.

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[–] Forbin 0 points 36 points (+36|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Let me shed some light on why the officer did what he did. First off, let's make an educated deduction based on the video. We have a handcuffed perp on the ground which suggests he/she had to be subdued. Second, you have an ambulance in the street, which suggests some type of violent incident occurred which required medical to be dispatched. Next, you have at least 4 officers on scene, again suggesting a potentially violent situation requiring backup. One officer has a taser unholstered, strongly suggesting that the police were (rightfully) concerned about the potential danger. Finally, you have a crowd of people in very close proximity to the officers attempting to conduct the arrest; one officer is telling the cameraman to back away so as to not interfere with the arrest. This is a textbook example of a potentially volatile situation.

I've posted this video elsewhere in this thread, but it perfectly illustrates why the officer who takes down the woman did so. It is from a police training film. The video depicts a non-hypothetical reality for law enforcement. They are routinely physically attacked when conducting stops and arrests.

We've established that the police had warned the crowd to stand back. The person they're arresting appears to be in cuffs, but is on the ground. The woman who bum rushes the situation is disobeying their orders and charges in, quickly raises her hand and could easily have had a weapon in it. The officers must react very quickly--they must stop her before she inflicts harm on either the officers or the arestee. Let me be clear on that--she very easily might be trying to attack the person on the ground, and if they allow her anywhere near him, the officers are responsible. Even if she were unarmed, she might have kicked the arestee in the head, etc. The police have an obligation to protect the person they're arresting as well as themselves.

It is currently as fashionable to hate and mock the police as it once was to vilify Vietnam-era soldiers. These folks are doing a pretty dangerous and shitty job and have to deal with scumbags (like those in this video) on a daily basis. I have no problem holding them accountable when they do bad shit, but this officer did exactly what he was trained to do--he stopped that woman from potentially hurting the first responders and/or the person being taken into custody.

EDIT: Here's the actual video of the incident. Pretty much confirms my deductions.

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[–] Tb0n3 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Yeah. I saw that arm raised and the order to stay back. I don't think the officer was in the wring at all. But I would argue that there's more than a little reason to have a poor view of police in general.

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[–] Forbin 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Folks generally base their opinions on Law Enforcement from both personal experience and the media. All I can say is that police officers are just people and not perfect. We rightly hold them to a higher standard because we entrust them with authority and power over us. That said, people would do well to recognize that, like the officer in this video, police are trained to respond a specific way for various scenarios. The video I linked is informative in that it teaches officers that they must maintain a reaction gap, and if that fails (like with the woman rushing in, armed raised) you have to take immediate action to neutralize the potential threat. It is impossible to hold him accountable for taking her down if that's what we have trained him to do. This is one reason why police are often not prosecuted and/or found "not guilty"--not because the system is rigged, but because their conduct is in accordance with the training they've been given.

Civilians often argue that officers should "use discretion" but fail to understand what that actually entails...it means that every officer would be given the latitude to enforce the law as THEY personally see fit. A mandate to use "discretion" is also a thinly veiled attempt to get them to not enforce the law. Do we want this (as a society)? Finally, creating a fuzzy standard really endangers cops. Look at what Darren Wilson went through after the Michael Brown incident. The only reason the cop didn't go to prison was the DNA evidence (inside his car) proved his version of events. Even then, he was viciously attacked for telling Brown and his buddy to move out of the street.

None of this is to suggest that there aren't "bad" cops. There are. There are bad teachers who have sex with kids too. There are bad doctors who hand out opiates like candy. But the vast majority of cops are just normal men & women who want to come home to their families after a long shift dealing with the scummiest of our society. If we don't like the way they respond or the laws they enforce, it really is up to us to change their training and change the laws.

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[–] WhiteRonin 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Dan Inasanto!! Bruce Lee's training partner and teacher for Kali!

I agree with you. The only thing I can bring to your points is that officer knew he was being filmed and didn't finish the take down which probably would've been cuffs or arm bar hold.

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[–] Sev_ 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

100% justified.

Watching the video was like "Cops Bingo"

Man resisting arrest shouting "I'm not resisting" - Check

Girlfriend attacking officers - Check

Man in handcuffs shouting "she didn't do anything" as officers subdue said girlfriend - Check

Amateur Spielberg trying repeatedly to get close in shots - Check

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[–] Forbin 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I believe the cameraman also yelled out "World Star!" at one point! :D

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[–] intrepiddemise 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I appreciate the detail you went into here, but you're on Voat, not Reddit. The default position here is to support the police, especially when they are obviously just doing their jobs, not to bash them.

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[–] YoHomie 4 points 17 points (+21|-4) ago  (edited ago)

Robocop = 1; Psycho bitch with no class, respect, or concern for the rules society has set up for a peaceful living environment for everyone = 0

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[–] Leetman 2 points 3 points (+5|-2) ago 

What did she say to them

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[–] 2716057 1 points 14 points (+15|-1) ago 

Does it matter? None of these negative qualities are exclusive to verbal contact. Running up to an officer with your arm raised like you're going to strike him is enough to knock you out of all of these categories.

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[–] bob3333 1 points 11 points (+12|-1) ago 

Suing for "police brutality" in 5 .. 4 .. 3 .. 2 ..

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[–] SilverBanana [S] 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

Such lawsuit would be denied. There is clear threat from the woman captured on the video.

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[–] bob3333 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago  (edited ago)

It would only be denied because there is a video. Without the video it would be a case of "white male cop attacks helpless minority woman for no reason."

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[–] lord_nougat 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Yeah, I am super against police brutality, but this is not that. At all.

Not that it won't necessarily stop her from claiming that kind of thing anyway, the way people can be these days.

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[–] cinderblock 1 points 11 points (+12|-1) ago 

Damn. Natural selection at work.

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[–] flarflar 1 points 10 points (+11|-1) ago 

She looked so fake acting like she was dead on the ground. I've been slammed like that your body goes into defense mode.

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[–] Chiefpacman 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

Yeah, or you hit that special spot where you choke for air for 10 minutes

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[–] Lake 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

I fucking hate that. If I were to guess what dieing feels like, that's it.

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[–] NedTaggart 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

She may have been stunned, hard to tell, the clip was too short, but that was no knock out.

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[–] BentAxel 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Appeared like one to me. Full dead body. What do I know, last one I saw was probably 20 years ago.

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[–] xaric 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I am trying to determine if the cop tazed her before she even hit the ground ... check his right hand.

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[–] clamhurt_legbeard 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Definitely not. She wouldn't have gone limp, but rather tense, if she got tased.

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[–] ThePieAssassin 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Well it does look like her head bounce off the ground a bit. If she wasn't totally stupid before this either knocked it out of her or accelerated the stupid.

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