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[–] SkepticalMartian 2 points 31 points (+33|-2) ago  (edited ago)

I think the whole female gamer harassment thing is definitely overblown, but I couldn't listen to this girl longer than 60 seconds before shutting her off - she's just irritating. Attempting to make it sound like it never happens is just as ridiculous as trying to say that it's some kind of pandemic problem.

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[–] doctor_cucumber 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

This. If all the trolls plaguing Halo servers want to start talking about how shitty it is that a girl is on their team and speaking through a headset, the simple way to turn it around and shut it down is, "I'm prepubescent, not a girl. Have a crush on me faggot?" The end.

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[–] ArsCortica 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

Agreed. I can not agree when she claims that women face no harassment at all because they happen to be women; primarily because I've seen a few of these situations myself over the years while playing with female teammates.

That being said, I do believe that the amount of sexist behavior attributed to the gaming community by the so-called "games media" is utterly overblown, and that what little of this behavior exists does not stem from gamers being sexist through the bank, but rather from gamers also having their own small percentage of qualified retards amongst their mid, just like every other social group. As a matter of fact, I'd argue that this percentage in the gaming community is smaller than in most other social groups.

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[–] Just_A_Human 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I am a guy and I get harassed now and then. welcome to the internet. raw unfiltered humanity. it is disgusting, but they are by no means the majority by a long shot.

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[–] obsessedcrf 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

"Don't get harassment whatsoever"

I don't believe that is true. At least in online gaming, almost anyone can be subject to harassment. Plenty of males experience it in some form of another

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[–] barset 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

If you set it as a ratio of male harassment vs female in games, it'd heavily slant towards males, but then again there's likely more males playing games anyway.

I've had people calling to dox me in WoW. Shit was rather amusing just because I was feeding a chat troll and they were getting butthurt over it and this guy was just taking the bait and running with it.

Females I've seen far more white knighting with very little "back to the kitchen" types.

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[–] Just_A_Human 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

The white knights and the trolls both need to get laid. Want less trolls attacking women in video games? Lower or lessen the social and economic barriers to sexual intercourse.

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[–] Frankensauce 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

The only harassment I've had in awhile in online gaming is lenny face keybind spam. I'd hardly call that harrassment.

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[–] Majatek 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Mirrored (slightly edited) comment:

I think the important thing to take from of all of this is "I haven't been harassed because of video games". Harassment happens to everyone (or at least can), but games aren't a gateway to making someone harass someone else for their gender no more than it is a gateway to violence. Games don't create misogynists any more than games create spree killers - extreme example, but you get the gist. :U

It's definitely overblown, though (almost creating a fear culture around it? It's pretty messed up and extreme). Hope she doesn't get negative attention from those who believe that female gamers do get swamped with harassment, only to ironically harass her for denouncing them - because I've seen this happen time and time again before.

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[–] septopus 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

Meh. Not debunked at all.

Women get harassed. That is reality. There are just greifers out there that target women, and face it, women get hit a lot and some dudes are spoil sports when rejected.

The answer to these things imo is an IRC-like system that allows you to ignore people, supply a reason for the ignore, and have a reputation system (that must include 'judicial review') that allows others to not play with people who have scores of a certain theshhold in a catagory. This way women who dont find shit offensive can play with people who say things those others might find offensive. Have blocking systems set up so that you cannot join games in progress with people you have blocked, and visa versa. While it would be cool if everyone rolled on some E together and could get along change takes time. You need to have the tools available to control how you play and who you play with imo.

Every girl who games that I know has had to deal with some kinda shit; but they also have to deal with some kinda shit irl. It's not a gamer issue, its a ppl issue. There has to be a balance between omfg my triggers i need a safe space to QQ or screaming 'stop raping me' and butching the fuck up. And guys should chill the fuck out a bit too... but fuck if you ever read /r/girlgamer you will see some unbalanced opinions.

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[–] Enigmius1 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

I saw this yesterday and decided to leave it alone for a bit before commenting. I have to agree that the woman speaking is not really in a position to be speaking on behalf of the majority. I've talked to countless women in games who have been very pragmatic about dealing with the harassment they receive online, and the presence of that harassment is almost universal. Some deal with it by not revealing their gender. Big problem solved right there. Others may or may not avoid referencing their gender but eventually find themselves in a position where other players found out they're female and then the real stupidity starts. Everything from obsessive romantic overtures to blatant, explicit sexual harassment. This is magnified immeasurably for female gamers who stream or make videos. Most female youtubers/streamers I follow have to have security at public events like conferences because they've had viewers threaten them directly or exhibit unstable behavior that gave the woman legitimate reason to be concerned about their safety. This is something that most male gamers, whether they have a media presence or not, simply don't have to deal with.

For a woman to come forward and say that she doesn't play games online very much and say nothing about whether or not she's forthcoming about her gender in those rare cases where she is online and then present a lot of irrelevant anecdotal evidence that supposedly supports the premise that female gamers don't have to deal with harassment is irresponsible. It's unintelligent, counterproductive, and irresponsible.

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