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[–] mqrmqr 4 points 38 points (+42|-4) ago 

Crowdfunding is like preordering, except worse.

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[–] Subtenko 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

yea but until theres protection for backers site wide f crowdfunding.

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[–] Diggit 12 points 1 points (+13|-12) ago 

Name five

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[–] caveman1337 4 points 8 points (+12|-4) ago 

It's an investment and should be treated as such. It has great potential to bring to life games that wouldn't otherwise have a shot. It also can end in disaster. It's the investor's responsibility to judge whether the team asking for money is capable of achieving their goals.

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[–] jaceame 1 points 11 points (+12|-1) ago 

The difference is if I invest in a company and things fall apart I'm taking their factory and selling it in attempt to recoup my losses. I can do this because if you invest in a company you get part of it. If crowd funded games fall apart they disappear and you are just left there with no way to recoup your losses.

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[–] Broc_Lia 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Nah, crowdfunding has it's place, it;s just that Schafer is a terrible director. He's pulled exactly the same shit when regular investors were involved. "Don't give money to doublefine" goes equally regardless of the funding method.

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[–] Subtenko 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

much worse. i rather support gamestop and trade in all my games for pennys than crowdfund. Even for major companies.... even trusted companies im not doing it anymore

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[–] Zenogias 1 points 22 points (+23|-1) ago  (edited ago)

He also mocked the gaming community openly with anti-GG jokes on a national stage.

I will never play one of his games again, and you shouldn't either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEDCcdjgMNs

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[–] Scrumdiddlyumptious 9 points 1 points (+10|-9) ago 

Still gonna, though. This seems a lot like a smear campaign. Smells fishy, like Jack Black's taint waft. Whether or not Tim Schafer is a prick doesn't change the fact that the dude makes engrossing, fun games. Rather play BL again than whatever the latest COD is.

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[–] Thidran 0 points 19 points (+19|-0) ago 

No he doesn't. He's the face of devs who do, some of whom he fired the same month he ran day of the dev last year. If you wonder why Spacebase sucked? It's because he was busy wining and dining press rather than paying his workers right.

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[–] Broc_Lia 1 points 6 points (+7|-1) ago  (edited ago)

I used to think so, but looking back on it, pretty much everything he's touched has been a disaster.

Anyhow, you don't deserve to be downvoted for being sceptical, have an upvote.

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[–] Turnip_Time 1 points 19 points (+20|-1) ago 

Too many of these end in broken promises. I wouldn't even consider donating to a Kickstarter...unless it's InXile or Obsidian.

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[–] Turnip_Time 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Can you elaborate a bit on what happened with you regarding Wasteland 2? How did you get screwed out of a key?

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[–] MaleGoddess [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Even Obsidian. They caved to the outrage patrol on Twitter about a limerick, who knows what will happen the next time something in game offends someone. I pirated PoE.

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[–] 123_456 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

The Shenmue 3 one wasn't bad either, but it was being backed by Sony. The Kickstarter was to gauge interest in the game, and as a promo tool.

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[–] Broc_Lia 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

Which is fine. In the future I expect to see emerging studios use guarantors to give customers faith in their purchase. Right now it's a bit of a wild west though. My only hope is that some bright spark in Washington doesn't feel the need to step in and regulate it.

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[–] tanukihat 2 points 14 points (+16|-2) ago 

Y'know, I really like a lot of Double Fine games - Psychonauts, Stacking, Costume Quest 1+2...but man oh man is Tim Schafer an insufferable prick. That's not why I only pirate their games now, though...it's because of Space Base DF9. They really fucked an entire community with that screwup. Fuck 'em forever, I say, and fuck Tim Schafer, the twat.

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[–] Tuxis 6 points -3 points (+3|-6) ago  (edited ago)

Is it because you don't want to play more of them, because that's how you get to not play more of them, if they make no money..

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[–] tanukihat 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Honestly as much as I like their games, I wouldn't be sad if Schafer went out of business. They're just video games dude, there are better developers out there making better games, for less than 3.3 million dollars on Kickstarter.

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[–] 123_456 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Brutal Legend wasn't popular, but it wasn't a bad game. This article is inaccurate at least about that.

Broken Age, though over budget, was completed.

But I still agree that people should not "invest." They'll lose their money.

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[–] memnoch87 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I loved Brutal Legend. Adored it. That being said, this dude clearly has no idea how to manage money and that should be monitored very closely!

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[–] Thidran 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

It was, but it wasn't a Big Rigs: Off Road Racing either.

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[–] Turnip_Time 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Yea, but Big Rigs is in so bad it's good territory.

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[–] firex726 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

I thi k it was Mundane Matt who had some interesting insight about the site Tim is using to collect the money and how he himself is profiting off the takings .

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[–] threelite 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Don't think he's profiting, but he is on the board of advisors. I guess they don't take any money, it's still kind of weird he wouldn't disclose it on the Psychonauts 2 page itself.

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[–] firex726 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

They have to, whose paying the server costs then .

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[–] NPBFatpatrol 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I never played my copy of broken age because it went so far over schedule and I was disgusted that it was part 1 of 2. By the time they sent off the COMPLETE game I supported and people were posting their save files wouldn't load from the halfway point I stopped giving a fuck.

This guy takes advantage of everyone's childhood memories and nostalgia and doesn't deliver. Give him more money than he says he needs and he will piss it all away.

FTL was Kickstarted. On budget on time, fantastic. There are too many other talented people that deserve their first shots than this crook asking for his 6th, 7th, etc.

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[–] Gerplunckamo 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Haha, jokes on them. I don't donate to anything.

Ever.

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