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[–] Tipman79 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

But none of that changes the fact that we have massively misrepresented a game to our readers, fans of the Uncharted series and the industry who read VG247.

Yeah actually. That IS proper journalism.

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[–] threelite 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

Apologizing is a step up, but this just further reinforces the idea that game journalists aren't really gamers.

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[–] SterlingItachiArcher 0 points 27 points (+27|-0) ago 

Epic failure on their part as "Journalists"

That being said, I commend them for issuing this apology.

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[–] Twisterz 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

Ya I only listen to individuals and only for a generally feeling of a game. I don't go near these sites for reviews any more.

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[–] BriarBlack 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

For something to be an epic failure it needs to stand out from other failures in some significant way. This is merely another failure in a long list of failures. There's nothing epic about it, it's quite standard really.

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[–] Zquareman 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

The field of gaming journalism, in comparison to every other field of journalism and the failures they experience, is itself an epic failure.

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[–] wouldntsavezion 2 points 1 points (+3|-2) ago 

Pretty much the contrary, having such an apology statement issued might make me go to them much more often. The garbage journalism you refer to would've coughed up a shitty excuse and burried their error under tons of crap.

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[–] Dexter111 0 points 17 points (+17|-0) ago 

One would think actual "journalists" would not mistake an entirely different game (which they said they were a fan of) for another in the first place, or would at least know to ask if they weren't sure. They "apologized" anyway because they got SONY on their ass.

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[–] Zquareman 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Good point, I'm much more likely to go to a science website that mistakes gravity for electricity and then issues an apology about it.

Because, yknow, happy feefees are more important than accuracy or competence.

Fucking seriously, I'd cut my mom a break if she couldn't tell the difference between a PS3 and a PS4 title but for 'professionals?' They should all be fired.

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[–] Dereliction 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Yeah ... pretty sure that apology was coming no matter what. Hard to ignore a gaffe like that, even for gaming "journalists."

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[–] alien_01 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

But... how could you be playing Uncharted 2 and confuse it with Uncharted 4... AS A GAMES JOURNALIST? Presumably games journalists are meant to play games, right? I'm not going to read anything from this shit.

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[–] 2833144? 2 points 11 points (+13|-2) ago 

Stupid motherfuckers. Just when I thought gaming journalism couldn't get worse. Wow.

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[–] Enigmius1 7 points 5 points (+12|-7) ago 

Some people seem to be under the impression that being a journalist means you don't make mistakes. That's not the case. Being a journalist means you have ethics (which has nothing to do with mistakes) and that if you make a mistake, you take all appropriate measures to correct the situation.

If this was The Escapist, I'd be expecting them to post an article blaming Naughty Dog for not adequately labeling the game, the Tokyo Game Show for not recognizing the importance of signage in English, and Chris Roberts for having a house in the Pacific Palisades.

But that's not what happened. A mistake was made, a clarification and an apology was offered. Life goes on.

If people want to bitch about bad journalism, bitch about the articles that would fail an eighth grade book report for poor spelling and grammar. Bitch about the articles written by people with a bias and an agenda and backed by people who should know better. Pointing to this scenario as an example of poor journalism doesn't fit.

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[–] NateThomas1979 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

But it most definitely does. Imagine if Rush Limbaugh were to offer a critic of some law passing only to find out that it wasn't a current law, but one that was proposed years ago and has no relevance to today.

If you are a journalist of a specific nature, it is the first rule that you verify your sources. Not being able to distinguish between the two games is a cardinal sin for a gaming journalist. It calls into question their knowledge, their experience and even their methods for reviewing games.

At least they had the decency to apologize.

EDIT: If you're reading below here, please whoever it is, take back your downvote. We're both talking about gaming and the story at hand, despite my disagreement with him, it's pertinent discussion and downvoting only causes people to not share opposing opinions. I value this disagreement. I do. It's what makes this site special.

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[–] Enigmius1 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

I can only hope someone takes the same line with you the next time you make a mistake on the job so that you realize how completely unreasonable you're being. Nobody is perfect, and when it comes to an HD remake being played in a foreign country with only limited support for your language and it gets mistaken for something else...it's pretty understandable. Had there not been a correction and an apology there would be an issue, but reasonable amends were made. There's no reason to be so harsh.

(And if the writer of this article had the staff Rush Limbaugh does to do the research and check the facts, the mistake probably wouldn't have been made. Very few journalists enjoy that kind of privilege, however. Using Limbaugh as a parallel was not a smart bet.)

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[–] Dexter111 3 points 5 points (+8|-3) ago  (edited ago)

Star Citizen is a scam and will never come out, get over it.

The Escapist did the absolutely right thing to dig into that and print employee's and ex-employee's statements.

As a rather famous author once said:

“Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed: everything else is public relations."

Go ahead and keep defending this shit though, I'm sure it'll turn out well: http://i3.dealtwith.it/i/n/68358ab0e51281c9e2d85e2a476fc972/BxyCs7d.png

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[–] foshizzle 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

They didn't even dig into anything. They pulled shit straight out of their asses.

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[–] Majatek 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago  (edited ago)

It's a scam? How?

All I see is a slow development cycle on a relatively big-budget title - and I say relatively because compared to the triple-A industry, 70mil is pocket change. Personally I'm getting a lot of a "because it hasn't been done before, it can't be done now!" vibe from dissenters. I mean, they delivered on the various combat modules - did they not? Am I missing something here?

edit: getting downvoated but noone replies... lol...

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[–] Palaxar 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

The problem is that QA is one of the lowest priorities for a site. I've seen Kotaku write articles with massive spelling/grammar errors which shows that they put so little effort into their QA that they don't even run a spell check program on the article.

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[–] Enigmius1 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

The problem isn't that QA at a site level is not a high priority. The problem is that the journalists writing the articles are consistently unwilling to proofread their work. They can't be bothered to investigate the reason behind the red squiggly line under every 5th word. They don't know what an apostrophe is really for, and they haven't done enough reading in their life to know what common phrases look like ("...for all intensive purposes..." D:<).

I find these kinds of mistakes to be more untrustworthy than the one described here. These are people who are doing a job on a regular basis who lack the skills to do so and the motivation to improve. They're ostensibly receiving an income for their work but demonstrate time and time again that they don't take any pride whatsoever in what they do. They make the same mistakes over and over and over again but in many cases they fly under the radar because so many of their readers are just as incapable of spotting a shit article as the writers themselves.

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[–] Schrodingers_Spy 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

How fucking stupid could you be? LOL

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[–] channelfadge 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

is there an archive link to the original article?

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[–] mblim [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

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[–] channelfadge 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

thanks!

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[–] Koot 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Are you fucking serious?

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