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[–] Fambida 3 points 27 points (+30|-3) ago 

Good for GameShit. Digital sales are a shady as fuck method to try to deprive people of their first sale right to resell their purchases. If I buy a game, I OWN A FUCKING COPY. I am not renting a fucking license, no matter how much copyright monopolists want that to be the case. GameStop is in the right here, as much as I hate them.

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[–] CombustibLemons 1 points 10 points (+11|-1) ago 

Get used to digital downloads. Everything is going that way. PC already is like 95% digital, rumors are that the next xbox and PS won't have disc drives at all. The good news is that since they know you can't resell it and that every person that wants to play the game has to actually buy it is that often sales are much better. I got Mad Max for 15 dollars already.

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[–] sparkybear 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

They'll have disc drives. Too many sales would be lost without the ability to play bluray/DVDs at this point

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[–] Totenglocke 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I only buy digital console games if it's dirt cheap / the only option (such as playing classic games originally made for a different system). On PC, almost everything I buy is digital because the prices are so obscenely low and it's much more convenient. Due to the closed nature of consoles, I prefer physical, but on PC I know that I can always get my games to run even if it's a decade or more down the road.

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[–] Pattoe 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

You think you own a game just because you have a disk? That's cute.

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[–] Violentlight 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I get what your saying about owning it if it's physical. But once you install the game, they have as much control over it as the digital downloads. The disc is just a different method of transferring the data to your system.

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[–] dregan 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

But GOG and Humble Bundle.

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[–] Fambida 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Do they let me resell my games? No. Fuck 'em. Same goes for Steam. At least Europe forced 'em to allow resale over there, but I ain't in Europe.

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[–] SkepticalMartian 4 points 9 points (+13|-4) ago  (edited ago)

Unsurprising. Game trade-ins at gamestop are a ripoff anyway. They wind up selling the game for much more than what they give you for it. The easiest way to see how much they screw you for is in the actual console trade-ins. For example, if you were to trade in an Xbox One 500gb console you'd get $175. They turn around and sell it for $300+.

Games are very similar. If you were to sell your PS4 copy of Metal Gear Solid V right now you'd get $24 cash or $30 store credit on a game that isn't even old enough to know what dust is. They turn around and sell that game for $57, just $3 shy of what it'd be new. It's really time to stop supporting this greed-based system. Instead, we need a service for buying and selling used games that doesn't involve them. Such a service could survive on much smaller margins, giving greater value to the consumer and still come out ahead.

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[–] barset 1 points 9 points (+10|-1) ago 

This is why I got away from consoles.

On reddit I took a lot of shit for talking shit about Gamestop. I've worked in a non Gamestop shop that offered more in trade and less on prices than they did. New game used? At most $10 less than new, trade in value? $25 on a $49 game. If you had two $20 games to trade we'd cover the $10 difference for a new game if you wanted one. And we carried everything from NES to what's now last gen.

It's a fucking racket. We made money hand over fist with less margin than GS and were able to expand from 30 stores to around 140 before the CEO got greedy and sold us to Blockbuster who then sold us to gamestop.

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[–] SkepticalMartian 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I'm not surprised a few people flipped out on reddit. It's amazing how people can become blind fanboys of something instead of just looking at the easy to find publicly available numbers, doing the simple math, and forming an objective, informed opinion. I don't see this as a problem with consoles though, I see it as a problem with gaming chains who know there are a lot of people they can easily take advantage of.

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[–] Firevine 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Man, I applied at one of those stores once. My buddy used to manage one. That place sounded cool.

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[–] Acer-Red 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I dunno if I would say it's a ripoff just because they make a huge profit. Anyone could try selling a game on their own instead of trading it in. Part of it is the convenience of not dealing with trying to sell it yourself. Another is the immediate pay off. You don't have to sit on the product for an unknown amount of time trying to sell it. And another is of course the infrastructure. If you want to sell the game yourself, you'll have to at least post on Craigslist or something similar.

That being said, I've never traded a game in, even back when I regularly played console games. However, I have traded in a car that I knew I could sell on my own for probably $1500 more, but I didn't want to deal with all of that. I didn't want the vehicle taking up space and sitting up times to show the damn thing to people looking. I got an immediate $4000 towards my new vehicle and didn't have to do a damn thing, not to mention I didn't have to deal with someone trying to come back to me if somethin' went to hell on it in a few months or something.

So I guess I just think it's not quite to the level of a "ripoff" in my opinion. Obviously people see the benefit or else they'd be forced to pay more for the game trade-ins.

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[–] SkepticalMartian 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I can think of systems that are more equitable. For example, lets say you bring in a game in excellent condition that sells for $60 new. The store gives you a choice.

option 1: you can sell it on consignment where the game has a month to sell before it is returned to you. The store sells it at 10% less than it's present market value new. If it sells, the game owner takes 90% of its sale value. This means a game worth $60 new sells for $54, and the game owner gets $48.60 while the store makes $5.40. The person purchasing the game saves $6. The game owner is paid 2 working days after the transaction is complete to allow for a brief return policy.

option 2: the store buys the game outright at 70% of it's present value new. This would be because purchasing stock becomes a risk. So, on a game that is $60 new, the game owner gets $42 cash. The store sells the game at 10% less than it's present market value, which is $54. The store makes $12 should the game sell before it devalues. The game owner is paid right away.

Even in the case where the store takes all the risk, it's still a better deal for the customer than what gamestop offers. You could offer the very same deal on the consoles and peripherals too. There are a few more edge cases to work out, but a viable model isn't too hard to come by. Right now, gamestop is basically giving you less than 50% of the value of the game new, and selling it at close to full price if it's a recent title.

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[–] richard_m_lurkmoar 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

When you trade in to gamestop, you're sacrificing some of the value of the game for the convenience of easily selling it. If you don't like how much they offer, then sell it on ebay.

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[–] 3dk 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

....like ebay.

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[–] idle_voating 2 points 7 points (+9|-2) ago  (edited ago)

Consoles overall are a rip off.

edit. You get so much more for your money on PC.

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[–] Pattoe 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Spend a few hundred dollars for a PC that outperforms consoles and is multi function, save more than a few hundred dollars after your first 5-10 game purchases.

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[–] WeekendBaker 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

played consoles up to PS2. I logged countless hours on Mario kart, Zelda, f-zero X, golden eye, yoshi's island.... But was pissed at lots of games that sucked harder than free flash games. PC also has tons of shit, most of steam I wouldn't touch with a pole.... But they have more Titles with long play value (guild wars, victoria II, battlefield 1942, Stalker). Over time, I prefer PC just due to more long-value games, compared to a console I may only enjoy 4-5 games on (ex, my game boy is an expensive Pokemon player)

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[–] raydeen 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

To quote Nelson Munce:

"Haw Haw, your medium is dying!"

I honestly can't remember when I've bought a physical copy of a game. Maybe 5 or 6 years ago. And that was for a used GameCube that I paid $30 for. Face it GameStop. You're less than useless at this point except for resale of older games. I'm surprised the chain still exists.

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[–] FeelinFroggy 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Aww, Tower Records is trying desperately one last time to remain relevant in the face of iTunes.

Wait. Wrong story, my bad.

So sad, GameStop, all my purchases are digital 'cause fuck you - go the way of Blockbuster, bitches.

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[–] strokavich 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Good, I hate digital. I want physical copies that I can put into me console at any time I want.

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[–] CombustibLemons 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Good luck. Everything's moving to digital since physical copies can fuck Devs and Pubs over, especially with short games because they don't get money from a used game sale.

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[–] Fred 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Not shocked that Gamestop wouldn't sell something that would hinder their own business model, since used is probably largely where they're making their money. Unless Best Buy, Wal-Mart, Target, and every other place that sells video game stuff joined in, they're just shooing themselves in the foot though.

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[–] FeelinFroggy 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

GameStop's got, like, ten years left in it - tops.

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[–] raydeen 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Ten years is way beyond generous.

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[–] Fred 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I think they may see contractions when digital rises, but will still have a presence because people in rural areas still play video games and lord knows their internet needs aren't being met right now or in the foreseeable future, so digital is a nonstarter for them.

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[–] MoonMansWay 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

As much as I hate the lack of ownership rights I have over a digital copy, GameStop isn't going to make a difference. The bundles will just be bought at other major retailers like Walmart, target, and BestBuy. Gamestop will just end up a Cell phone repair/accessories store and go the way of radioshack

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