[–] Greyskull 0 points 44 points (+44|-0) ago  (edited ago)

build 100%

https://pcpartpicker.com/

just makes it so easy

*edit

Keep in mind pcpartpicker top buying links are not always the cheapest...... altho they appear to be, do a search first before blind ordering

[–] AmaleksHairyAss 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Seconded. It's as easy as lego, just ground yourself frequently and watch some videos if you're not sure. And don't force anything.

If it's a gaming PC you're going to need Windows unless you're okay with being limited to what Wine supports properly. So pirate that ahead of time.

[–] Greyskull 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I've boughted win pro, and really have zero issues with it. I've removed bloat using powershell and use pi-hole to block telemetry.. just updates I keep open.

I think people with main issues with it have upgraded from win7

Also @mightyace get a SSD drive, at least 500 gigs... and keep your favorite game on it, you wont regret it... cry once

[–] Doglegwarrior 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

U can get a local pc shop to put it together cheeply.. i suggest this just incase zomething iz fucked up they are responsible and you dont void any warrenties etc i think you will still come out with either a cheaper computer or for the same price you will get more bang for your buck.

[–] Cedru 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Any specific advice on how to declaw win 10? I hear is a clingy bitch.

[–] Caesarkid1 2 points -1 points (+1|-2) ago 

just ground yourself frequently

HAH!

[–] TurdLord5000 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Built mine using pcpartpicker.com also. Original price was $750, but came down to $650 after I sent in seven mail-in rebates.

[–] J_Darnley 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

For those in The Netherlands and Belgium (and maybe other places in that corner of Europe) there is also Tweakers and their price watch which pulls in from many more stores locally than PCPartPicker

[–] BeauDacious 1 points 11 points (+12|-1) ago 

Built.

You can start with some compromise components.

You don't get shit on by a vendor who installs software you don't want. (unless you load win 10 on your own that is)\

[–] valk2 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

[–] MobbedUp 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

If anyone suggests buying a pre built they're idiots or they work in that industry. I was building my own PCs at age 11 and that was before YouTube or instructional videos existed all over the place. Honestly at this point in time you should be able to find walkthroughs for installing any part you buy, like that specific part not just a CPU but your CPU.

You save money and get better quality parts, for 850$ in the prebuilt industry you would spend 600 to 650$ buidling it yourself and you would end up with more reliable parts.

[–] Wahaha 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I think it's fine if you're going for mini-PCs. I wouldn't even know how to build one of those tiny fuckers myself, but they're great. Not for modern gaming, though. Then again, modern gaming kind of sucks anyway.

[–] Thrus2 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

only real differences is motherboard form factor and case, after that it is just being sure that you pick parts that handle the power you have available and that you control the amount of heat in a small space.

[–] WeekendBaker 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I am an idiot then with no regrets. I bought a pc years ago, and just upgraded parts as my games needed, starting with the power supply and graphics card. Sometimes we don’t trust our skills enough on something we know very little about initially, and don’t have the social net to find someone we trust to do it for us.

[–] MobbedUp 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

The problem here though is that again, I was doing it at age eleven and I'm really not that bright. There are numerous tutorial videos to walk people through it step by step. I realize I'm coming off as extremely condescending and it's probably not helping, but it's just not that difficult, especially nowadays.

I just made a comment earlier comparing a prebuilt I found to a parts list I put together, where regardless of the situation I'm saving the person money as well as providing significantly better hardware.

I'm glad you upgraded your PSU though at least. A lot of people don't think much of them and neglect them. I've honestly seen numerous prebuilt PSUs die on people, taking other hardware with them in a few cases. The fact that to this day "reputable" companies that sell prebuilts still include noname cheap PSUs is ridiculous and it bothers me for some reason.

[–] ProbablyDead1st 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago  (edited ago)

I have built every desktop i have owned since 1995, thats because the market never offered a gaming computer out of the box, that being said a friend asked me to help him convert "From Console" so i said i would be happy to help a defector from console to the light...LOL. So i thought we would make a trip of it so i looked up Microcenter to start to make a list and to my surprise they are offering top shelf systems out of the box running 32 Gb of Ram and an Nvidea 1080Ti Video card. Times they are a changin.It has also gotten much easier as back in 95 you used to have to set all these jumpers on the motherboard dependant upon what hardware you had, the mother board came with a book that was an inch thick a build was an all day process, nowadays just ground yourself with a wrist strap and plug away in an hour your installing windows.

[–] Buff_Awesome 3 points 5 points (+8|-3) ago 

Building will cost you more initially, but in the long run will save you loads. With a custom build you can easily swap out parts when they go bad. A factory build will be a lot cheaper at first, but won't last as long and will require you to toss the whole thing when you want a new one since they use stock components.

Now in terms of your budget, $850 can get you a decent build, but if you don't already have peripherals you'll struggle. The monitor, mouse, speakers, and keyboard could eat up close to half your budget. If you don't already have those, try to get them used. Most workplaces have at least one unused monitor floating around somewhere that they don't want anymore. That'll save you a lot right there. Mice and keyboards can be dirt cheap if you're willing to compromise. Speakers can be cheap or expensive depending on how dedicated you are in getting a sub-woofer. The monitor will be the single most expensive part, except the GPU, so if you can find one for free, you'll be in a much better position.

[–] MobbedUp 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I disagree that it's cheaper to go prebuilt. Show me a few prebuilts and I'll show you a cheaper price list.

edit; Decided to take my own challenge.

https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/AMD-Ryzen-5-Configurator

875$

compared to https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MvYFXP

For 674$

Now I didn't include a mouse or keyboard, or case. In many cases someone wanting to build a PC will know someone with an old case kicking around. If they don't, that's an extra 30 - 50$. The Mouse is an extra 10$, Keyboard an extra 20$. So let's say 70$ putting my total at 734$ still nearly 150$ cheaper than the prebuilt. However I include a better PSU that's actually a name brand. I included the same CPU and GPU, but my GPU has twice the VRAM.

It's also fair for me to note that their Keyboard/Mouse are in house brands, so probably complete shit. They also include an in house water cooling solution for the CPU which I would automatically not trust.

Now if you include a legitimate copy of Windows the costs are about the same as the prebuilt. However, much like the Case, you probably know someone into PCs that can set you up with a cracked version of Windows. I routinely help people out with that stuff because fuck Microsoft.

Now if you're able to source a Case, Mouse, Keyboard, and OS for cheap or free, my solution saved 200$ and in my opinion drastically improved the quality of the build.

And just one last thing, I didn't spend time on this. I looked at a few prebuilt retailers and CyberPower seemed like they included the least amount of bullshit gimmicks. Then I looked for similar hardware on PCPartPicker. I would not suggest anyone buy the items I linked specifically as I haven't actually looked into them in detail. I'm sure it would be a solid build though at first glance, but I'm fairly knowledgeable about this stuff and I'd still run it by r/BuildaPC or other such communities. I think my point stands though, building a computer yourself will both save you money and improve the quality of your PC which should make it last you significantly longer. Even if you have to invest in all the starter equipment like a mouse, keyboard, case, and OS it's still the same price and you get better quality peripherals. ( Although I stand by NZXT for cases. They make stellar cases. I don't know if I'll ever buy another companies cases after experiencing their NZXT Phantom 410 for my main rig and one of their cheaper offerings for my server PC. )

[–] Buff_Awesome 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I said it would be cheaper initially, but cost more in the long run. It depends on how much you're willing to spend though. The more you spend, the more future proof your equipment will be. All that being said, I'm speaking in the context of this guy's budget, not as a general rule.

[–] Thrus2 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Your windows solution to even the cost is to use cracked to reduce to zero by not paying for it? ok this is much easier now and I can beat it with ease. https://www.samsclub.com/sams/hp-envy-750-537cb-27-inch-curved-monit/prod21265079.ip?xid=plp_product_1_7 Pick it up and run out with it total cost $30 in sun glasses and a hat to hide your face.

One other thing you are overlooking is time, for some people they don't find building things fun so this will be work and cost them time that they could be doing other things. Especially setting up a water cooled system like the cyberpower system uses after stripping off the heat syncs from the video card and voiding that warranty there before you even get to using it.

[–] Wahaha 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I'll take you up on that challenge: https://www.zotac.com/us/product/mini_pcs/iq01#spec Got it for $600 four years ago as a barebone. The form factor is important!

[–] Alopix 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

A 23-24" 1080 screen is $100 on sale new, and there's usually someone trying to get rid of one locally. A mouse with a best-you-can-get sensor for gaming is usually around 60-80. A keyboard is like $2-3 at any just about any second hand store, same for speakers.

Do not skimp on guts for ricer peripherals, ultra res screens, etc. Don't sacrifice power for memes or aesthetics. Don't be a passive consumer, that's the point of this DIY thing in the first place.

[–] Improbablyanasshole 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

A $3 keyboard for gaming, oh god, no, make it stop. I do not like this feel.

[–] speedisavirus 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

A nice keyboard is $80+

[–] Greyskull 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Also, there is MANY places you can just tell them what you want and they would build it for you at pretty must the same cost as purchasing the parts.... my nephew did that

its the only way they beat online stores, microcenter I think does it (if you have one near you) They actually might just build it for you and ship to your house

[–] speedisavirus 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Microcenter is great

[–] EBTFatty 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Especially their CPU + Motherboard combos. The combo ends up cheaper than you can get online.

[–] pizza_mine 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Built with a $1500 budget. I used http://www.hardware-revolution.com as a guideline for my build and to stay with in my budget. I managed to build a great VR ready PC. I’m very happy with the result.

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