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[–] LethalFeline 1 points 57 points (+58|-1) ago  (edited ago)

I would like image posts outlawed entirely. I have yet to see a link to imgur, slimgur, or another image host in this subverse that is not a shitpost.

EDIT: This is the danger we face, reader. A feed that is nothing but image posts.

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[–] Deathcrow 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Yep... forbidding any kind of image links is an objective and easy to implement measure against low effort submissions. Many other criteria require some kind of judgement call by the moderators and are iffy (anyone who is from reddit has seen those weird justifications for removing politically unwelcome submissions).

Actually I already dislike Rule no. 1 we have here. I don't know why it is necessary. A gaming subreddit won't ubgoat something that isn't gaming related - and if they do there's probably a good reason to do so (like the reddit revolt). That rule is completely unnecessary and is only useful for abusing it.

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[–] this_is_patrick 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

yeah, ban all images altogether. we really don't want a repeat of r/gaming. Plus, when the mods create kind of a grey area as to what is and isn't okay to post, it just becomes waaaay more complicated than it really needs to be.

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[–] ForgotMyName 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

I agree. I think there are better places for all of the different types of image posts -

Funny screencap? Game-specific sub

Macro? Game-specific sub

Console/PC setup? Battlestations or DIY

Cosplay? cosplay

Fan art? Game-specific sub

There are obviously more, but you get the idea.

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[–] Magnus86 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

As a practical example, let's pretend I had some actual talent and painted a picture of a scene from my favorite game and shared the deviant art link here for others to see. Would this be a shit post simply because it was a picture?

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[–] LethalFeline 0 points 20 points (+20|-0) ago 

I'm sure it's a nice picture, but I'm more interested in games themselves than fan creations.

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[–] epuscasu 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

I'd say it would belong in a subverse like /v/art or, even better, /v/gameart. A picture doesn't really make a good item for discussion or debate, in my opinion. At most we will all agree how cool it is and how the game it's depicting was, but that's all.

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[–] voat-simulator 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

It seems some people think so. Though I dislike shitposting, I happen to like image posts and don't think they're directly correlated, but I also recognize that mine isn't the only voice, and if /v/gaming becomes something I truly don't like, I have the option to go elsewhere instead of just constantly bitching about it.

Ultimately, I don't have a strong emotional investment in the content of this particular sub, so I'll probably stick around regardless.

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[–] JamesDarrow 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

I am in agreement. In my time back on Reddit, I never found a single imgur (or similar) link that actually contributed or sparked discussion. Usually almost every direct image link led to memes, MRW's, DAE's, etc.

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[–] ForgotMyName 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

This is my exact problem with them. They're not conducive to developing a community that discusses games. They're just - click, lol, upvote, click.

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[–] RedditCEOEllenPao 0 points 22 points (+22|-0) ago 

On "Low Effort/Quality," I'd like to reiterate something I said on the previously stickied topic.

One of the things that irks me the most is the "personal achievement" posts that so many ScoreWhores will inevitably submit - "After OVER 9000 hours, I finally Platinum'd GAME" with a cropped out screenshot of a Platinum trophy from their PS4. I think they really serve no other purpose than to 1) give the submitter the warm and fuzzies that internet strangers are giving them the attention their parents starved them of as a child and 2) blatant ScoreWhoring for points.

I feel I'm going to likely be the minority in this, but, I wanted to voice my opinion anyway.

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[–] epuscasu 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

I agree. I think that going the path /r/games went is the best for this subverse.

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[–] ForgotMyName 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Those are exactly the kinds of posts that made me leave /r/gaming. It might as well have been gamingcirclejerk. I don't think anyone would have known the difference if someone had sneaked in and replaced all the content with satire.

If you just want to talk about a particular game, I'm all right with that. Just make a self-post. Let's talk about - X. And people can actually discuss the game.

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[–] Tsugumori 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I think a weekly screenshot meathead would go a long way. Some of them are pretty funny. Screenshot Sunday anyone?

Maybe fanart Friday, too?

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[–] thethreefive 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

This is a fantastic idea. Works wonders for cutting down on self-serving questions and idle ranting in /r/android. We we didn't have those weekly threads (and the archiving subreddit /r/MoronicMondayAndroid so people can easily access the threads at a later date), the entire sub would drown in noise.

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[–] Magnus86 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

I kind of feel like the voat is the whole point right? So a sub is driven by the community that follows it yeah? If a post is "bad" or "good" I guess in theory the voats will let the group make the determination together.

I feel like the only thing worse than a "bad post" is a post crying about how one person dislikes this type of post and as such they should be banned. These, are most assuredly off topic. One mans "silly image post which should be banned" is another mans "hey wow look what happened to that dude in GTA.. I like it"

I would imagine aside from things of questionable legality, the rule is pretty simple then... Is it about gaming, or not?

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[–] Deathcrow 0 points 21 points (+21|-0) ago  (edited ago)

You are probably not aware what happened to /r/gaming. It's a cesspool of idiocy.

What we learned from that: Some quality control (besides public vote) is sorely needed. There has been lots of theory crafting on why democratic voting doesn't work sometimes, just the short short version: Quick to digest, simple content has an extreme advantage. A meme picture is much faster digested by more people who will upvote it. An intelligent article that's actually interesting - even if it is upvoted by a larger percentage of users - is buried, because low number of votes.

Low effort submissions have to be curbed in some way, if you don't the subreddit will be only that after a while.

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[–] Magnus86 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago  (edited ago)

That at least is a much easier to understand/agree with argument than "I don't like this so I want a rule against it"

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[–] RED-001 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I thought having /r/gaming and /r/games subreddits side by side worked nicely. Trying to steer the main gaming sub into a higher quality discussion is going to be tough because the masses will always prefer casual and lighter posts.

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[–] ForgotMyName 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

This is a nice thought, but the problem is that you end up with very little variety in the sub. Whatever the current top AAA title is will inundate the sub with gifs, macros, all kinds of crap. I was subscribed to loads of game-specific subs with all kinds of stuff like that and it made sense, because it was just for that game.

When you're trying to build a sub that's meant to appeal to all of its members, it's hard to justify filling the front page with loads of posts relating solely to COD or Battlefield.

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[–] BiscuitFever 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

In theory that works, but in practice it doesn't. Reddit's default subs are a great example of that.

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[–] atr0p0s 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Hey everyone.

I think everyone's concerns about this becoming a repeat of /r/gaming are super valid. Ergo, I went ahead and made /v/gamingpics . Go post all the shitty memes you want over there.

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[–] Laughing_Boy 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago  (edited ago)

This got me thinking. (warning: this might be hairbrained) /r/gaming was hardly unique in this problem. At least half the subreddits I'd subscribed to had shitposts for half their content. Is there something that could be done site-wide to better allow people to control the content they see?

What if every subverse had multiple portals. (For lack of a better name) /v/ is the generic, all-inclusive. If you go to /v/gaming you see every post submitted.

But then there's a button that takes you to /c/gaming where it's just the casual content - things related to the topic, but not exactly discussing it. Pictures and memes and DAE and stuff. Ya know, shitposts. It's content, and sometimes worth a laugh. To each their own.

And then there's /s/gaming where serious content goes. Links to news articles and actual discussions of topics and trends in gaming. And maybe there's other portals worth thinking.

When you submit a link, you're asked which portal it belongs to. In a user's preferences/settings, they're asked what default portal they want to see when they enter a subverse. People who want memes and pictures can have their way, and those who don't can have theirs.

TL;DR: Can Voat offer user-activated content filtering as a site-wide level?

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[–] Tasty 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

I was looking at the rules and I realized something. Rule #1 is too ambiguous if this subverse is only for video gaming. Take something like D&D or Magic: TCG, am I allowed to post those things here because they are games? All i'm trying to say is that narrowing the focus of /v/gaming too much is just as bad as allowing almost everything.

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[–] ForgotMyName 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I pointed that out as well. To me it's a problem inherent in having a sub as generic as "gaming". It's like making a sub called "water". Well, wtf goes in there? Sorry, no ice allowed, only liquid water counts.

Most people are expressing what they want excluded but I think we need to discuss what the focus is instead.

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[–] Tasty 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I agree 100%. While we should be considering what we don't want to see, we should be putting a higher interest in what content we WANT to see.

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