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[–] PeaceOfMind 1 points 56 points (+57|-1) ago 

Whatever is done to maintain quality control, I think sooner would be better. Already, every other post on Voat's front page this morning was some variant of "MRW Voat was down/is back." Just awful.

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[–] ShowMeThePunny 0 points 22 points (+22|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Let me diagnose the problem using economics. Part of that is voat stagnation. We have an artificial drop in voat mobility because of sharp limits on the volume of voats that can be voated.

Hopefully in a few weeks when the recent influx of reddit or increase their available stock of voats, we'll see more movement on the front page.

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[–] kick_his_ass_sebas 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

What is MRW? I hate acronyms. Hey that should be a rule!

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[–] justletmevoat 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Just subscribe to any subvoat, and the front page will disappear, replaced with poasts just from that subvoat. Mine is stuck with a single poast!

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[–] machin_shin 0 points 37 points (+37|-0) ago 

Something I really liked on r/games that I would like to see here is the weekly stickied discussion threads, such as "what are you currently playing, and what do you think of it", and the comments and suggestions thread where you can post questions that don't warrant their own thread. I feel that these generated some of the best discussion, and helped keep steady amounts of new content on the front page.

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[–] m0rd 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Those threads were the reason I frequented r/games. Alot of handy information if you were on the fence about buying a game, or just wanted to test something new. I found them alot more helpful than most videogame reviews.

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[–] tomlinas 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Totally agree with this. The way to build a good discussion is not to try and suppress the things you don't like, because that just won't work -- instead, it's to keep focusing on the things you do like / want more of.

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[–] Caerlocc 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

Looking at r/games may provide some helpful examples since it was made as an alternative to the low quality sub gaming became.

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[–] atr0p0s 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

Well the one thing they did that really helped that was banning image posts. So if we want this to be a serious gaming forum then we might want to adhere to that and then set up /v/gamingpics for image posts/memes

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[–] SnakePlissken 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

R/games became commentary on AAA game and developer news though. Not much broad game discussion anymore.

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[–] cabana_cain 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I like /r/games and I think we should keep the image posts to a different subverse but maybe more liberal rules in the comments.

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[–] asabringman 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Yeah but do we really want to be like /r/games? That place takes itself way too seriously and most of the discussions are a little too "inside baseball" for my liking. There has to be a happy medium between the 2 extremes.

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[–] Rusti 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

Could have a subverse that's called /v/gamingmemes

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[–] BenBen 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Yeah, but unless the verse sticks to the rules, people will just post in whichever one is more popular to get more voats.

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[–] specialagentcooper 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

That would deal with the majority of issues

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[–] pcguy2 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Agreed. We should move those away from the main gaming subverse. Similar to what trees did to memes.

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[–] SBOOB_RUOY_EM_MP 0 points 48 points (+48|-0) ago 

One idea would be to promote discussions on the subverse by hosting a weekly (or daily?) discussion thread.

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[–] Callski 1 points 10 points (+11|-1) ago 

I agree. This could be really fun. Talking about given gaming genres, favorite moments, etc.

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[–] Kuma_Desu 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Second this! This sounds like a lot of fun!

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[–] GreatGatsby 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Favorite moments would be the greatest thing ever.

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[–] Drakonisch 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

We could do a weekly game of the week thread that's voted on or something. Maybe hold a voting thread as sticky that's held on Tuesday and closes on Friday. Then the following Monday we have a sticky thread to discuss whatever game got voted for.

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[–] IndieRock 1 points 37 points (+38|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Nature will take its course. You'll either like it here, or you won't. If the community doesn't head in a direction you're enjoying, that probably means this isn't the community for you. To try and steer it to your liking with rules and prevention doesn't seem right to me though. The voting system and starting discussions to your liking are your tools to try and steer the community in a direction to your liking. Being active is key. You're off to a good start with this thread. However, I fear it's an uphill battle to achieve what you desire.

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[–] Biff-Top-Johnny 0 points 30 points (+30|-0) ago  (edited ago)

This guy is right.

The problem with r/gaming wasn't the endless memes and random cosplay, but the community being infested with people who don't have an attention span.

We all know the FB crowd have finally got their head around what reddit is, and now they've started using it so they can feel like cool internet people. That's the audience that's submitting content and (more importantly) upvoting it.

So long as those cunts don't come here we'll be fine with a few sensible rules and leaving users to decide what gets to the top.

This is why I advocate allowing horrible language and (within reason) politically incorrect jokes to not get downvoted here. If we keep the FB crowd scared of us they'll stay where they're comfortable: under Pao's bony ass-cheeks sucking the farts directly from her orifice.

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[–] barset 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

Solid example of bad language and being politically incorrect. I like it.

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[–] BreweryInTheSea 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

The cool thing is this strategy works. The "facebook crowd" have never become a part of /b/ and never will because they take this philosophy to the extreme.

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[–] Hate-Sponge 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

The 4/8chan way of dealing with normals I like it. We need to post Nazi porn with each of our posts.

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[–] Froyo101 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

"If we keep the FB crowd scared of us they'll stay where they're comfortable"

Eh, it worked for /pol/ and other places on 4chan as breweryinthesea said, so it'll probably work here if we try hard enough.

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[–] amio 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

It pains me to admit, but you're right. Reddit and Voat are inherently democratic, which works well in the beginning and invariably turns to shit when enough people come aboard, go "lel memes xddxdxdxd" and don't bother to actually try and figure out what the existing "culture" of the community on the site/subverse is like.

Personally, I hope that Voat will stay at a "comfortable" size, a point that Reddit passed years ago, and that the ones who made the move are aware enough of the issues that contributed to its decline to prevent it happening on the same scale here.

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[–] Froyo101 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

"Personally, I hope that Voat will stay at a "comfortable" size, a point that Reddit passed years ago, and that the ones who made the move are aware enough of the issues that contributed to its decline to prevent it happening on the same scale here."

As the saying goes, those who forget history will repeat, so let's hope we never forget.

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[–] deathcomesilent 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Personally, I hope that Voat will stay at a "comfortable" size, a point that Reddit passed years ago, and that the ones who made the move are aware enough of the issues that contributed to its decline to prevent it happening on the same scale here.

I really hope you're right. I just abandoned the reddit ship and I really love the environment here, it reminds me of reddit 5-6 years ago.

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[–] damhr 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

This is the right answer to this question

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[–] aluatrill 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I agree you can't dictate what the community will be. It is either a community you like or not.

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[–] RedSocks157 0 points 21 points (+21|-0) ago 

No memes and no banning of topics.

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[–] Callski 1 points 9 points (+10|-1) ago 

I disagree on the banning of topics. If they're unrelated to gaming I think they should be banned. As long as it is related to gaming, then yes, do not ban.

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[–] RedSocks157 0 points 23 points (+23|-0) ago 

Of course. But /r/gaming banned serious things like gamergate in favor of memes, stupid gifs of people dicking around in GTA, and so on. I don't want to see this sub end up like that is my point.

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[–] Orrison 0 points 18 points (+18|-0) ago 

As extreme as this sounds maybe banning Memes on this sub and creating something like /v/gamingmemes or gamingpics that way we can have a sub for discussion and news, and one for fun/funny stuff. Giving the users the ability to choose whether they want one or the other or both.

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[–] Orrison 0 points 24 points (+24|-0) ago 

Or better yet make a rule to have users tag their posts as joke, meme, discussion, news, etc. And have a filter in the sidebar so users can choose what they want to view.

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[–] deific 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago  (edited ago)

This is the most reasonable idea yet and I think would work best long term.

Although a daily/weekly discussion thread isnt a bad idea either.

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[–] amio 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Or, we could have a "democratic" voting process for categories as well.

I never figured out quite how the "post flair"/tagging stuff worked on Reddit, but it didn't seem particularly well-implemented. Here, we actually have a chance of that happening.

Voat is a bit of a carbon copy, I'd love to see some actual original features. :p

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[–] ForgotMyName 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I agree. For those of you that love memes - the reason many of us don't is that they don't really do anything for discussion. The comments are nearly always 99% follow-on jokes and puns. Which is fine in a sub geared toward that. But if the objective is to talk about games and learn about games, it doesn't make much sense.

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[–] Orrison 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

That makes sense. Then I guess the goal would be to have two subverses. /v/games for discussion, and /v/gaming for Memes and other tom foolery. They users would just have to understand this difference. With that info being provided in the sidebar and some good Mods to remove misplaced posts (while also explaining to the user WHY their post was taken down and where they should put it) I think everyone could have a place.

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[–] sammanzhi 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Not extreme, necessary. Memes made /r/gaming unbearable. I'd go so far as to say no photo posts, because you're just going to get more posts like "who remembers this gem" and "got a super duper high score on Starfox" which doesn't provide anything interesting to discuss yet get wicked upvoats.

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[–] Orrison 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

To be honest I am leaning more towards my idea of tags and being able to filter based off those tabs. Some users went to gaming because they actually liked and wanted to see memes and the such. Therefore being able to customize your experience on the subverse would probably be the best bet instead of confusing and/or alienating people by making something completely separate.

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[–] Gwizasaurus 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Hopefully a concentration on actual new and old gaming content. The constant photos of "look what I found" and references to the same games are awful. It would be ideal if this gaming thread stuck to great fan made videos, trailers, and articles. This thread will be more light-hearted and fun while "games" (or whatever) will be the more serious game discussion that goes deeper and gets into the game making process. That's my hope anyway.

Edit: Forgot some words.

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[–] Gwizasaurus 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Good point. The hating on everyone's specs or even consoles is very irritating. Who cares. Enjoy games however you choose. Games should be something to be excited about. Thoughtful discussion of how to fix the bad things and how to grow the positive things would be ideal. Support for indie games and the lesser-knowns would be great too.

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[–] amireallyreal 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Once one person posted a nostalgia thread or a "look what I found on my attic" or a "I herd u guys like mystery cartridges" thread it seemed like there would be a stampede of them, all from people wanting to capitalise on those sweet sweet internet points. And the obnoxious part was that those posts added very, very little to the sub. It was just a circle jerk of "original content" between gifs of gta v and witcher 3. I'd like to see something like you described with additional weekly discussions for that extra feeling of community and open opinions.

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[–] Game_Maven 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I would start by having weekends self-post only. A huge part of the problem with /r/gaming was also endemic to the rest; the gamification for karma with easy to consume content. It isn't just the submissions that were porous, it was the comments. The endless chains of one-liner puns upvoted to the top over actual discussion is quite detrimental. If we wish to avoid a repeat of /r/gaming, we have to limit what caused that subreddit to become the cesspit it is today.

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[–] Pajakistan 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

The idea of a self-post only gaming discussion is really neat actually, but an entire weekend might be a bit extreme? I don't know how they'd find any type of balance, but if they could somehow encourage self-posts instead of discouraging pictures or dank memes or whatever, that could do some cool stuff.

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[–] Pokee 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I wouldn't mind this becoming like /r/games. Good information/news related to gaming and discussions.

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