[–] ArsCortica 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

To be quite honest, the entire "meme" term is pretty vague and can cover pretty much anything from reposts ad nauseam to humorous OC. When in doubt, I would rather go after selected individuals who constantly spam crap from Reddit and elsewhere in an obvious attempt to farm SCPs for godknowswhat purpose, but this naturally comes with its own problems.

[–] ChillyHellion [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I like this approach. Memes are too vague to define in a way that satisfies the majority of people, and the real problem is quality and spam. So address the quality with the voating system and the spam with post removals.

I think this might be the best route, honestly.

[–] Disappointed 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I have one unrelated suggestion and it's something that has bothered me for a while. The tag you have that says recommended/review. As it stands now (and when I first saw it long ago) because the whole tag is cut off, it looks like just recommended.. and that you mods are personally recommending whatever is following the tag. Perhaps if you changed the words around so review is first it might look better. It's not a big deal which is why I never bought it up before but there it is.

There's no need for scripting now when making tags either you just delete one and add another and it will work.

[–] ChillyHellion [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I follow your logic and I think that's an excellent suggestion. I've gone ahead and made that change now. Sorry for not connecting the dots sooner. It doesn't appear to apply to posts retroactively, but should apply to posts moving forward.

I wonder if we can drop the "recommendation" part of the flair altogether. It's really only used when someone is promoting their own work to distinguish those posts from a third-party review. And those posts aren't very frequent. Maybe I can tag those as "discussion" and replace "review/recommendation" with simply "review".

edit: lets test drive "review" for a while instead of "review/recommendation" and see how it goes. I've also shortened "Game Sales/Giveaway" to "Sale/Giveaway" since that was getting cut off as well. I'm glad you pointed this out because even a small change can be a good change worth making.

[–] Disappointed 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Maybe I can tag those as "discussion" and replace "review/recommendation" with simply "review".

This makes a lot of sense to me.

Thanks for the reply

[–] sgx191316 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I like it as it stands. I consider it a filter on extremely low effort/low value posts which still appeal (marginally) to a lot of people. Something along the lines of "Anyone remember this? [picture of Age of Empires CD case]" could potentially get a lot of votes, because yes, obviously a lot of people remember that, but no one actually really cares about that submission. Meanwhile, something talking about the history of asymmetry in RTSes and why AI War is the most interesting RTS of the last five years won't appeal to a lot of people, but the people it appeals to might actually be pretty interested in it. So genuinely interesting but more niche content could be swamped out by image macros that people find just barely interesting enough to click their mouse on an up arrow- the total interest is much lower, but it's shared by more people, and there's no difference between a "Yes I remember this game, now I am reading the next thing and I will forget this post existed in five minutes" upvote and a "This post changed my life" upvote. Really it's a flaw in the voting system, not that there's an obvious way to fix it.

[–] ChillyHellion [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Tags like link flair?

[–] sgx191316 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Uh, that's actually not remotely what I wrote. I guess my post got destroyed and replaced by that message because I put some text in angle brackets. I'll rewrite it later.

[–] thenobody 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I second this, memes are low effort ways to conjure feelings but they hide anything remotefully interesting or useful.

At worst, a "weekly discussion" in which people can post memes, but they should not take over the rest of the content.

[–] OneTrueCube 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

I would argue that memes are fine, as long as they are not endlessly re-posted.

OC memes can be a valid method of commentary.

Although it's hard to verify that sort of thing.

[–] ChillyHellion [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I agree on all points

[–] Project2501 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Maybe change it to something akin to reposts, and give a time period? So the same image, even with different texts can't be used in the same week or something? I mean, it would be putting actual bylines on "that is copied and spread rapidly by Internet users, often with slight variations" portion of the definition. If an image is not being copied with slight variations on /v/gaming, does it count as original content?

That one good meme of an image to get across a point about a piece of gaming news or commentary is enough to rethink this.

[–] ChillyHellion [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Would the meme need to have the same text to be considered a repost, or just the same image?

That one good meme of an image to get across a point about a piece of gaming news or commentary is enough to rethink this.

That was my thinking exactly, thank you for putting this so clearly and concisely.

[–] Project2501 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I personally would say same image in X amount of time, maybe even 24 hours. It covers the "we don't like memes because of recycled content" but it would open it up so that those good memes can stay, especially considering they do get upvoted by the community, it seems like something should change. Could even go as far as to allow memes fully, and just revisit this if it gets to be too much crap/spam.

[–] Kellyb 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Hey it's great

[–] ChillyHellion [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Noted, thank you! I'm going to leave this post stickied for another day or two; I want to make sure everyone has had time to weigh in.

[–] Troll 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Fuck memes. That's SCP farming for retards from Reddit.

[–] BillDing 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Why not keep the rule as it is and make a v/gamingmemes subverse?

[–] ChillyHellion [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

That's a good idea. /v/gamingpics was set up for that purpose but died from lack of interest. I guess the question is, should we ban memes because of lack of interest, or should we allow memes because there probably won't be many anyway?

[–] BillDing 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I say let there be memes!

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