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[–] Fambida 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Smax is probably the best 4x turn based game there is even if it is almost 20 years old.

You must not have ever played Master of Magic or MOO2, because they take #1 and #2 to AC's #3.

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[–] rusty-_-shackleford [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I've played Master of Orion and it was pretty good I think Galactic Civilizations from Stardock is a little better though

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[–] Fambida 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

MOO2 is the best space 4x out there IMO. The lack of tactical battles is a big flaw for me in the Galciv games. I will grant that GalCiv 2 and 3 are better than the first Master of Orion though, which by extension means WAY better than the 3rd MOO. I haven't played the new MOO reboot yet, but it's actually 50% off on steam today, so I will be trying it soon. (I'm in the middle of my first Stellaris game right now, and I'm liking Stellaris pretty well so far)