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[–] Failure 0 points 56 points (+56|-0) ago 

In other news, water is wet, the moon exists, and plants grow.

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[–] who-am-i 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago  (edited ago)

the moon exists

You sure about that mate? Give it a good long hard look and suddenly it doesn't seem so real.

/s (kinda, i don't know what to believe or who i am anymore)

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[–] Wuttier 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Come join us on /v/conspiracy , you'll love it there with these types of videos.

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[–] twee 12 points -3 points (+9|-12) ago  (edited ago)

In Other Faker News:

There are growing numbers of fags who are haxors in Overwatch and their mom can tell you how my taint tastes.

Edit: forgot the /s

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[–] DayWalker 4 points 37 points (+41|-4) ago 

Good. No mercy. Sick of console faggotry. Fucking playing FPS with thumbsticks. Needing fucking aim assist. T-bag them all to death.

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[–] lopan 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

If you play enough, the aim assist hinders. so much crap

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[–] GreyAlien 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

this omg this fucking annoying shit ever

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[–] who-am-i 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

So much this. First time played Halo:CE was PC version, then Halo2 on Games for Windows. Tried console multiplayer, that shit was fucked. All the Halos would jerk my aim off a target when there were two targets in a line and one gets closer, then turn, making me fucking miss.

honestly, that not only turned me off the whole series, but console gaming too.

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[–] 7943966? 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Some people just like to play with thumbsticks, and that's why they play console.

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[–] Redcorgh 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I don't know about yours, but my Xbox controller works just fine on my PC. And so does my PlayStation controller. And my Logitech one. And any of the other million compatible controllers and steering wheel+pedals assemblies, hotas setups, and God knows how many other alternatives to m+KB. At least PC gives you the option to customize your rig.

I only use the controller for driving cars but still, the option is there.

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[–] stillinit 5 points 2 points (+7|-5) ago  (edited ago)

I used to think like you. Then I realized I'm tired of being hunched over a computer and would much rather kick back and play on a big screen.

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[–] Laurentius_the_pyro 2 points 12 points (+14|-2) ago 

PCs can still do that better than a console.

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[–] Scrapco 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

HDMI->amp->projector. 120" PC screen big enough? :-P

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[–] Hell 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

This is the gayest shit I've ever heard.

Just kidding I have ps4 and a gaming PC... both are decent (PC is best tho)

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[–] truckboattruck 2 points 1 points (+3|-2) ago 

do you have a dick in your mouth?

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[–] FortunateSphincters 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Eh - I prefer the console because my computer crashes all the time and I'm actually better than most people who play on console.

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[–] ginx2666 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

I don't know how much hitbox magic and autoaim they'll have to put in for console folk to even try to make them competitive.

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[–] GimmeTheUsual 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Motherfucking rail gun, baby.

A good player could "thread the needle" and get several targets in a row. Awesome shit.

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[–] SquarebobSpongebutt 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

In official tournaments I may see the purpose of limiting everyone to a controller or kb/mouse but not just regular online. Everyone has the capability to purchase and use kb/mouse so this isn't something they should worry about.

And as far as being able to tell at lower levels, I can promise you that you could tell. Someone playing with a mouse is going to turn and such a ton faster than anyone with a controller. It will almost appear that they are using a 180 cheat.

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[–] GimmeTheUsual 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I get it for competition play.

But for normal people who are playing, I say do whatever suits you.

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[–] go1dfish 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Yeah I would expect this.

On a somewhat similar note i've been working on a VR shooter that might possibly support non-VR and though I'm not even sure if it will have multiplayer (leaning towards no at least initially) I have been wondering how viable it would be to intermingle VR and non-VR players in a competitive shooter (partly to compensate for the relative lack of VR users right now).

Mouse and keyboard is supreme when it comes to 2d, but having played some motion controlled shooters it's also possible to be very fast on the draw with those controls.

I still think mouse and keyboard might be OP vs VR players but not nearly so bad as over gamepad users.

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[–] anonnynonny 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Having to physically turn your head and body will literally never be as fast as mouse control. It's physically impossible. You'll get disoriented or unbalanced.

VR will be more accurate and faster than gamepads, but never for mice.

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[–] go1dfish 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Yeah exactly, from a pure movement perspective mouse and keyboard has a clear advantage but the VR players would tend to have an awareness advantage I think, as well as more flexibility in cover/blind firing etc...

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[–] Subtenko 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

You dont move your mouse that far to turn, same with VR you can adjust the sensitivity so that smaller movements turn direction. You'd get it to a point when its like you're controlling it with your mind probably but its just because of the small movements.

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[–] grendelbiter 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

M+K would be at a tremendous advantage for all the reasons outlined in the other posts but also because non-VR players would probaly have better performance than VR.

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[–] go1dfish 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

idk if that's really a consideration because vr performance is very much all or nothing and you don't gain anything past 90fps.

If I was going to do it, non-VR would pile on additional (optional) visual effects to look better as well.

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[–] Daeavorn 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

All i can say to this is, Duh!

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[–] chrisman01 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

"We have contacted both first-party console manufacturers and expressed our concern about the use of mouse and keyboard and input conversion devices.”

Oh fucking brother...

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