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[–] sakuramboo 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I was about to edit my post to point that out that having number 5 is redundant since illegal content is against the site rules.

My philosophy is that the more general a topic a subverse has the less rules it should have. "Gaming" is pretty general, so having more than 2 rules (subject related posts only, and tag NSFW posts) I see as being too strict.

For example, take a look at the 3 subs I own. /v/rcg and /v/youarefamousnow are very specific in what their subject matters are. If a post does not meet the subject requirements I will delete them (haven't had to yet). And then in /v/snowboarding I have 1 rule, post must be about snowboarding (I might make a NSFW tag, too, but haven't decided yet).

Rules 2, 3, 4, and 6 can all be regulated by the users votes, and even if it's not, they are all able to spawn discussions. Why remove discussions just because someone posted "The cake is a lie!"?

And rules 7 and 9 are rules to control user behavior and I am against mods dictating to the users how they need to behave.

Really, because of all the rules is why I unsubbed from here and subbed /v/videogames.

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[–] ChillyHellion [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

That's good feedback. Personally I don't have a problem with community rules as long as they're in the community's control. Downvoats can curate content, but often don't provide a clear way of communicating just why the content was shot down.

Mods have the job of communicating and enforcing a community's rules so that a post that might have been buried in downvoats can instead end up contributing to the sub in a positive way. Posts with clickbait titles, for example, can benefit from having someone in a moderator role explain the community's stance on clickbait and help an OP understand what they can do to improve that post and meet the community's guidelines.

I have no desire to dictate what rules /v/gaming needs, and I'd rather step down than enforce a rule I don't feel right in applying. My job is to assist the will of the community whichever way it decides.

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[–] sakuramboo 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

It's not the mods or owners job to regulate behavior. That's the reddit style of moderating and one of the main reasons why we are on Voat.

Any rules that go outside the realm of the subject matter is not needed. And any rules that dictate behavior only pushes people away. For example, if you truly care about not seeing spoilers, make a new subverse, call it /v/spoilfreegaming, and go ahead and talk about video games but without talking about what happens in them. Just like how there is a /v/nsfwgaming (though only 2 posts), it's a more specific subject than just gaming. But, rules 2, 3, 4, and 6 can still spawn discussions. So what if a title is clickbaity? Hell, many gaming sites use clickbait titles. If the article is decent, that rule will still punish the user who posts it (if they don't bother to editorialize the title).

If the users don't like it, let them downvoat and move on. The owner/mods should never be the gatekeepers of what the users can see.

As for comments, I say fuck it. Unless the comment is breaking a site wide rule (ie. posting a dox, link to CP, etc.) let the community vote. But, never delete a comment (aside from site wide rule breaks). If someone wants to explain why a comment got downvoted, let someone comment and explain. Don't delete it because you don't like it but rather because it violates a site wide rule. If a user has their panties in a twist and cursing at everyone, leave it. They will get downvoted and face the consequences of possible ccp restriction. You don't build a community by regulating behavior but by being engaging with the users.

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[–] thrus 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I think many take 7 as a suggestion and the most I have ever seen it enforced is someone responding with "please mark spoilers" and it isn't even a mod saying it most of the time. It is nice to have how to do it listed on the side, I know there is a button in comments as well but so many people play dumb or don't even try to find things unless it is suggested to them.

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[–] sakuramboo 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Except that sometimes there is a discussion topic that implies there will be spoilers. Having a topic as "When did you cry from a video game?" or "What was your favorite ending?", to then complain that someones comment doesn't have a spoiler tag is utterly retarded. Especially if the comment is about something from 10+ years ago. That's like complaining in /v/movies that you didn't point spoiler tags around "The Titanic sinks."