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[–] Never_Over 9 points 37 points (+46|-9) ago  (edited ago)

when he goes off to watch the sunset with his dog, playing videogames, is probably the most depressing thing i ever seen on the internet

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[–] fujin 1 points 9 points (+10|-1) ago 

That's the first thing I noticed about this. He goes out to walk his dog and completely neglets it. What a shame.

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[–] Totenglocke 5 points 11 points (+16|-5) ago 

Clearly you and I have different definitions of "depressing". I look at people who give up their hobbies for kids and think it's depressing.

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[–] smokratez 2 points 6 points (+8|-2) ago 

Yeah. Play with your dog.

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[–] Broc_Lia 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

That ad tries very hard to depict gaming as a social outdoor experience, and it just ends up making them look like they have an addiction.

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[–] DrBunsen 2 points 16 points (+18|-2) ago 

That is the first interesting nintendo device I have seen since the snes.

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[–] Sciency 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

I feel like theyre trying really hard to bring back the social/interpersonal end of gaming that was all but lost when XBL/PSN became the norm for multiplayer. Last time I saw that was smash meele on the gamecube.

Imo, the socal aspect is the best reason to own a console, otherwise why not go PC? I think nintendo is about to hit big with this, as long as it works well, that is.

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[–] DrBunsen 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

That is what I thought. I am going to use pc anyway, but it is good too see alternatives. If I am going to play like the old days, I will be doing that on my snes/ps2/whatever old consoles I got.

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[–] superesper 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Seriously? This is just the third iteration (Wii, WiiU, Switch) of "let's do gimmicky shit for no reason". As long as the controls and specs are passable (one reason WiiU sold horribly, shitty motion controls, shitty specs, the casuals who fueled Wii sales didn't care anymore by the time of WiiU, and actual gamers were already sick of the gimmicks two weeks into owning a Wii), what's "interesting" about a gaming console is the games. Honestly, would anyone really prefer a bunch of gimmicky portable shit over better specs, better third party support (which a more conventional console would have), and serious games designed around a functional controller? I think this may be the end of Nintendo honestly. Very sad.

There is the actual controller you can use, so If it's cheap and the in house games are good, which is certainly possible (looked like a preview of a new Mario 64 style Mario, that plus Zelda and a new smash (don't know if a new smash is likely at all) and a new Mario kart could make the system well worth it despite all the pointless gimmicks if the price is low) then it could turn out alright. I certainly wish Nintendo would stop dicking around though and would just make a regular console and good games. NES, SNES, 64, and Gamecube are all basically the same thing but with generationally more power and more/different buttons on the controller, no major changes to controller mechanics or bullshit gimmick "revolutionary" features, and they were all fucking great.

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[–] Wahaha 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Depends on your View. Nes kinda introduced the gimmicky D-Pad (a joystick is all you need to game!), Snes introduced gimmicky shoulder buttons and two extra basically useless buttons, N64 introduced gimmicky joystick and two new buttons again (three if you count the left shoulder button which I don't, since I don't have three hands), but had the D-Pad there, just in case the thing turned out to be shit. What can we add next? A second joystick, because one was clearly not enough.

Geez. We've come a long way from 1 Joystick and 1 Button, to two Joysticks and a fuckton of buttons. What gimmicky shit can we pull of next? Motion control! And how about we put a screen inside your controller, just in case you where bored of looking at your game and wanted to look somewhere else! Fuck, now we're fresh out of ideas. How can we fuck this up for everyone next? Et voil√°.... the Switch.

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[–] Broc_Lia 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Yeah... a friend of mine got a Wii on release day, and it was fun for a week, but by then I just wanted a normal gamepad (or a mouse and keyboard). They're trying so hard to be the next big thing that they're destroying everything that made them the last big thing. The DS was ok, but that second touchscreen was almost universally ignored. I can't think of any games where it was indispensible.

This switch thing is basicly a tablet with a charging dock and a (slightly) clever controller, and the specs almost certainly reflect that. I'd imagine it'll win some design awards, but consumers won't be impressed when they start losing those little bits, or plastic slides start to break off.

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[–] DrBunsen 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Jesus, take a chill pill, I am PC master race and won't be buying it, but it looks interesting

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[–] cancer_patient 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

This just seems like a really cheesy gimmick.

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[–] jobes 1 points 11 points (+12|-1) ago 

It's literally an iteration on the Nvidia SHIELD tablet, with some Nintendo games. That's about it. I guess having two detachable controllers is kind of neat, but they look painful to use for two player.

Also, looks like it supports direct connection without needing a WiFi connection.

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[–] Totenglocke 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Those controllers aren't the primary controls (as shown in the video and confirmed by developer leaks).

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[–] jobes 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Yeah, I hope the primary controller is less clunky than the SHIELD controller. I'm assuming that the GPU scales up when the tablet is in the docking station. The Tegra model of GPUs continues to become more powerful if you give it more wattage, unlike the PowerVR or Adreno tile deferred GPUs.

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[–] lbruiser 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Nvidia SHIELD tablet

Doesn't that just stream the game? You still need a PC running for it to work and a good network connection. This is just the console. I might be wrong though, I don't own an Nvidia SHIELD tablet.

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[–] Womb_Raider 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

He's only addressing the controller style of the portable portion, not the primary controller or any other aspect of the console

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[–] jobes 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

No, the SHIELD tablet is around X360-ish GPU-wise. They had games like Half Life 2 and Trine on there. It worked pretty well...main issue is that loading times from the SD card were pretty terrible.

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[–] Alpha_Machine 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

The idea and the design look okay (from the trailer any; hard to tell imo) but I think 'NX' was better than 'Switch'. I get why it's called the 'Switch' but it's a bit of a silly name and a bit confusing, it only works if you attach 'Nintendo' to the front of it (you didn't have to go 'Nintendo Wii U', just 'Wii U' - seems like a big deal to me but I'm not a marketer so I'm just guessing).

I just hope it ends up with more games than the Wii U. I kept saying I'd get one when it had enough games now I'm just hoping the Switch will cause the price to drastically drop so it'll be worth it or is backwards compatible (they haven't confirmed or denied it afaik).

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[–] DirtyRainbows 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Have you ever played mario on the 64?

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[–] Alpha_Machine 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I wouldn't say that was a great title either. Not as bad as 'Switch' imo.

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[–] Totenglocke 2 points -1 points (+1|-2) ago 

I've never heard anyone call it "the 64". Maybe you're not from the US, but everyone I've ever known (even from other countries) called it the N64.

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[–] Wahaha 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I'll just continue to call it the NX. It's shorter and doesn't sound gay.

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[–] Datawych 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I dunno, I think the name is pretty decent if you look at it from a marketing perspective.

It distances the console from the Wii U, making absolutely fucking sure no one thinks it's a peripheral. We see it in console mode first specifically to drive that point home.

It describes a little bit of what the console is capable of and emphasizes what it can do that other consoles can't.

Also, c'mon, the marketing writes itself. "Ready to Switch?"

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[–] Alpha_Machine 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

The name isn't all bad, your points are probably why they went with it. My only point is that it just doesn't stand by itself - which it arguably doesn't need to.

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[–] Devieus 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

It seems the rumors that it uses cartridges were mostly true (they're more like the cards the DS line uses), so I doubt it'll have backwards compatibility.

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[–] w00dy 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

i'm thinking the current wiiu library will be available for online purchase, drastically increasing the launch library for people who were waiting on the wiiu to seem like a better purchase. They don't need to offer disc compatability, because if you own wiiu games, then you own a wiiu. it'd be nice if they could award you with a digital copy tho, so you could port it forward to the new hardware.

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[–] rabidjackdaniels 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

They can release a docking add-on drive that provides back-compat. Not an unprecedented move (although not disc-based, the Megadrive/Genesis had a Master System add-on that attached through the cartridge port and allowed you to play Master System games on the Megadrive/Genesis with some extra boosts, like stereo sound (hey, it was fucking 1989)).

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[–] lbruiser 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Got a non Nintendo fan to notice. I guess that's a good job on their part. Still going to wait for the reviews. Obviously much better looking than the Wii and WiiU. I'm interested to see where they go with this.

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[–] Sciency 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Seriously. I haven't blinked in nintendos direction since the gamecube release. I hope it works for them.

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[–] lbruiser 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Yeah, that's kinda where I sit too.

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[–] Wahaha 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Isn't that basically what every gamer did? I've also never touched Sony/Microsoft stuff, but thanks to Emulators and basically infinite gaming options I didn't have to quit my hobby. Haven't played anything newer than Game Cube stuff, though.

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[–] Broc_Lia 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I'm interested to see where they go with this.

I'm not holding my breath tbh. All of their hardware in the past few years have had "revolutionary" user interfaces, but they never seemed to result in anything amazing gamewise. The good games might have had some gimmick at some point where you had to wave your controller around or rub the touchscreen for a while, but it was usually disconnected from the main experience and could easily have been left out. Mostly developers just went with the traditional gamepad playing experience. I expect the same will be true here, in which case it's another ouja.

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[–] Wahaha 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

It's not like Nintendo themselves ever figured out anything useful to do with the damn tablet controller. Wonder why they thought this was a good idea.

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[–] Kookus 3 points 4 points (+7|-3) ago 

Yay... more tablet-centric gaming. When we should be focusing on cramming more power into our boxes to support the promised wave of VR games, developers are continuing to push the mobile gaming platform because it's cheap and has a high development ROI.

Strip away the fancy tunes and the friendly dog, and you'll see that this isn't for you, the consumer; it's for Nintendo, the corporation that wants to make the most amount of money for the least amount of investment. Pass.

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[–] Datawych 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

we should be focusing on cramming more power into our boxes to support the promised wave of VR games

You mean the ones that're nothing but shitty rail shooters and virtual movies? Pass.

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[–] Wahaha 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Still waiting for girlfriend simulators with adult content in them. Once those hit the market VR will be unstoppable.

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[–] TheKFCNyanCat 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

VR

Porn is literally the only good thing about VR right now. At least portability is something that's nice to have.

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[–] go1dfish 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

This ^ I have almost no interest in regular gaming anymore after getting into VR.

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[–] pm-me-your-pm 4 points 4 points (+8|-4) ago 

Jesus, that is the most unnecessarily complicated, convoluted, idiotic device I've seen since the Wii U. Nintendo won't let this "stationary + mobile" gaming thing go...and it has never worked. If only they'd have capitalized on the success of the Wii and started going down the VR route before anyone else, they might have a viable platform on their hands. This is absolute garbage though.

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[–] 6612697? 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

I think Nintendo's terrified of VR because they made the Virtual Boy and turned the entire concept into a laughingstock for a decade.

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[–] rabidjackdaniels 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I doubt Virtual Boy deferred VR for a decade. That was more due to VR tech simply not being at a good enough point yet, even before Virtual Boy.

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[–] 6611972? 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I don't know man. I have a Wii U and only play via the handheld touch screen. Yeah it's not really mobile but I like playing while the TV is on in the background.

I thought VR would have been the obvious next step.

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[–] pm-me-your-pm 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I mean, I'm sure there are plenty of people who love their Wii U and will love the Switch, but I really feel like Nintendo just gave up on even trying to compete with the other big consoles. I'd love to see a real Nintendo contender again, a la the N64.

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[–] Broc_Lia 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Was the Wii really that much of a success compared to the gamecube though? I can't think of any iconic wii games that'll go down in history. To me they've been going downhill since the SNES.

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[–] pm-me-your-pm 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

The Wii sold around 5x as many units as the GameCube, actually:

Nintendo sold 22 million GameCube units worldwide during its lifespan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GameCube#Reception

As of March 31, 2016, the Wii has sold 101.63 million consoles worldwide

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii#Sales

The Wii is also the 3rd best-selling home game console of all time, and the 5th best selling when you take handhelds into account:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_game_consoles#Home_game_consoles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_game_consoles#All_game_consoles

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[–] Zaqwert 2 points 4 points (+6|-2) ago 

Way over-emphasis on the mobility/on the go aspect, people aren't going to lug this thing around and play on the go that much.

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[–] inzmovi 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Actually they will. We don't see it in the west, but this thing is made to counter iphone mobile games in Japan.

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[–] TheKFCNyanCat 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

It's a Japan thing.

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[–] Broc_Lia 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Young kids will. And that's a significant chunk of their market now that they've driven away core gamers. Anyone else... doubt it.

The DS became a hit where I live because of Mario Cart, but that was cheap enough that people didn't mind effectively buying it for one game (and then maybe getting a few more because they had it). If this thing is console priced I don't see it riding on the back of a multiplayer hit like that.

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[–] Wahaha 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Didn't we have this problem of not having enough kids anymore? Why does Nintendo think kids are still a market?

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[–] Venturer [S] 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

I was thinking the same, it is bigger than most tablets. Doesn't look like it'll be comftorable for playing for lengths of time with the controllers attached.

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[–] gaiben 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Its not bigger. 6.6 in screen. Smaller than a Galaxy Tab S, about the size of an iPad Mini.

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