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[–] Palaver 6 points -6 points (+0|-6) ago 

Then fix it. Have real conversations with facts and contrary ideas. I had never heard of CTR until you tried to use it to silence dissenting opinions. No different than saying someone is 'mansplaining' to shut them up.

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[–] Palaver 3 points -2 points (+1|-3) ago 

Don't be so obvious next time.

What precisely are you accusing me of?

I silenced nothing. You were following their exact script the other day.

You're right. I didn't know what CTR was at the time. I am wary of labeling a valid concern as CTRish, or really any other negative label since it can be a tool to shut down discussion. On review, I do not believe that is what you were trying to do originally. Your last sentence it pitchforky though.

Most of your points make sense. The porn ban seems especially contrived, though I'm still surprised he folded. I think there is room for debate on the torture question, personally I feel it should be completely abolished since data points to it being unreliable.

Also, libel laws and propaganda laws are completely different animals, and should be treated thusly. The msm definitely needs to be fixed, libel lawsuits are not an effective way to correct the media's issues.. I'll admit I do not know what the answer is.

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[–] Palaver 1 point 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

I don't doubt it. It is clear Hillary is fucking garbage who will stop at nothing. She is still the greater of evils among the two parties candidates. I'm still very concerned about Trump, voat only gives one side of the picture.