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[–] mamwad 29 points 98 points (+127|-29) ago 

Bernie wants to break up the oligopolies, which would actually free up the markets. This joke doesn't really work. Social democrats really aren't opposed to markets so much as they believe they should be regulated to keep them open, egalitarian, and competitive. Central planning doesn't work. Most socialists know this.


[–] Plant_Boy 10 points 80 points (+90|-10) ago 

ELI5 breakdown:

Bernie wants to break up the large businesses that often don't allow smaller businesses to develop. People like Bernie aren't against people owning their own business, but they think these smaller private businesses need the government to help. This is to prevent the larger ones from using their size to abuse the smaller ones and allow the smaller ones to flourish better! Having one person controlling all the business from a service doesn't work, they can sometimes abuse their power and people like Bernie know this.

(Does that sound correct?)


[–] BlackDynomite 8 points 41 points (+49|-8) ago 

I couldn't type it out better. People are afraid of communism but right now we are living what they are afraid of. No money for the people because the gov taxes the people at a steeper rate than the rich while the keep buying the businesses formerly own by the poor and thats a eli5 for how wall Mart popped up everywhere and hardwear stores and other mom and pop stores disappeared.


[–] mamwad 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

People like Bernie aren't against people owning their own business

Not entirely true. Bernie has come out in support of worker co-ops, irrc. That essentially means that he favors democratizing the work place and giving workers the opportunity to own a financial stake in their company. It's pretty much a radical version of employee stock ownership programs. Each worker-owner has one share of the company and additional salaries are based on merit.


[–] threelite 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Exactly. The reason internet here sucks so bad is because there isn't any competition. There are two major cable companies and they stay out of each other's territories.


[–] TheAwesomeDude9001 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

That's probably the best breakdown I've ever read. Bravo.


[–] crusade 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

Regulators are easy to pay off


[–] mamwad 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

I'm an anarcho-syndicalist so I don't think regulation is the answer.


[–] bob3333 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago  (edited ago)

So if a business has to pay off a regulator to allow them to do x, how does eliminating the regulator/regulations that are supposed to prevent x actually stop the business from doing x?


[–] Cuilrunnings 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Bernie wants to break up the oligopolies

What does this even mean? Bernie wants more regulation. Regulation (aka barriers to entry) are the reason why there's an oligopoly in the first place.


[–] mamwad 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Regulation can be used to break down barriers to entry or it can create them. Similarly, you can use a hammer to build your neighbor a house or kill him. Just because bad policy exists doesn't mean no policy is better.


[–] Unreasonable 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

'Regulated' and 'open' are two contradictory ideas my doublethinking comrade.