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[–] RogerByam 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

The original Ethiopia was in northern Scandinavia, and that’s to whom they’re referring in the original tales.

There’s an awesome book about this, which I found-out about on Voat. Essentially, that the stories of the Iliad and Odyssey were originally based in Scandinavia and the Baltic.

“The Baltic Origins of Homer’s Epic Tales” by Felice Vinci.

Almost everything he outlines makes sense. I highly recommend it.

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[–] redtoe_skipper 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

That is interesting. ....and I seem to remember, of late, I think it was 2019, a massive skeleton collection was found in the Baltic region signifying a war approximating the size as described in the Ilias. From a geological perspective, it is quite easy to see the contacts with what we now call greek people.

For those who even dare to say Achilles was a Greek ..... the nomer does not appear in Ilias, as a designation of the people from what we now call Greco homelands (Greece, the Islands, Trace and Western Turkey) and when it does mention the word, it is a designation for a very particular and rather insignificant tribe.

Another great book on why Schlieman was wrong, and the geography better suits north western Europe, and Homer being from what is now called Zeeland (province of The Netherlands) is Iman Jacob Wilkens - Where Troy Once Stood.

Also interesting to read an older book written by a Belgian dude called Charles- Joseph de Graeve: La Republique des Champs-Elysées ou Monde Ancien.

I find three arguments quite strong:

1. The language in which the two stories: Iliad and Odyssey have been handed down to us, do not constitute well in mycean.

2. Menelaus runs away sailing from a Southern storm after having left Rhodus and reaches Egypt. In the Med that would be north - south. The storm would blow him North. Mathematically impossible ? No, Homer was wrong. [/s]

3. Troia' s are typical devices and are usually connected with Nordic/ North Sea peoples.

And here is a little note on confusion: Herodotus called Misr Egypt and the river that runs through Misr called Hapi, the Nile.

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[–] RogerByam 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Yeah, it's super-interesting to see explore the original homeland of the Europeans, how we all spread-out from the Artic.

A couple of good leads on books, thank you.

(The arguments about which you wrote are covered in the book I mentioned, along with naming for Egypt, if I remember correctly.)