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[–] FrozenInferno 8 points 156 points (+164|-8) ago  (edited ago)

Funnily enough, the inventor of the GIF says it's pronounced "jif".

Edit: Interesting how many people assume that I agree with the fact simply because I posted it.

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[–] ShitLord-Vader 1 points 57 points (+58|-1) ago 

Fuck Jiraffes.

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[–] Womb_Raider 7 points 44 points (+51|-7) ago 

I stand by Jif.

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[–] choders 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago  (edited ago)

People are going to be willfuly wrong and there is nothing he can do about that.

I hate humans.

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[–] darcalus 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

exactly. the Swastika didn't always stand for white power. it was originally considered a symbol of luck

obviously when a large group takes an interpretation of something and runs with it things happen. history will decide.

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[–] gunsmcbadass 16 points 20 points (+36|-16) ago  (edited ago)

This is the only point that needs to be made.

edit Downvoat over this? Really?

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[–] TheBrokenWorld 2 points 52 points (+54|-2) ago 

I think the point of the GIF is to prove how stupid it was for him to pronounce it like that.

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[–] Absolem 1 points 13 points (+14|-1) ago 

Not really, that's not how we use language.

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[–] Exist2Resist 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

If we listened to idiots all the time we'd still be living in the dark ages.

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[–] Quawonk 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

"You may have invented the graphics interchange format, but you did not invent how letters are pronounced. Letters existed before your format." -Maddox

At the end.

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[–] SirBenet 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Generally, if a g is followed by i, y, or e, it makes a j sound: Giraffe, gym, giant, gypsy, gyro, gentle, gel, germ, gem, gist, ginseng, ginger.

The whole idea of acronyms (rather than initialisms) is that they are pronounced as their own word, and thus the sound letters make in them doesn't correlate to the sounds in the word they represent, making the "but it's not jraphics!" argument a bit silly: ASCII pronounced is ask-ee, not ask-ih-ih; NASA is nass-a, not nass-aye; LASER is lase-err, not lass-eer; USA is ue-ess-aye, not ue-ess-ah; JPEG is jay-peg, not jay-feg.

That said, I don't pronounce it as a j.

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[–] Helllooooooooooooooo 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

What if he said its pronounced "shaboop?" Would it still count? At some point it becomes bigger than him and his proclamation, and it belongs to the world. I don't know where that point was, but it's beyond it.

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[–] his_dick 6 points 51 points (+57|-6) ago 

Maybe I will go see the (Hard G = "G") "G"iraffe at the zoo. Or I will go eat lunch with my friend "G"eorge. His lo"G"ic is flawed.

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[–] brotoes 1 points 25 points (+26|-1) ago 

I say gif with a hard G. But listing off a bunch of hard G words is an invalid argument.

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[–] neonneophyte 3 points 54 points (+57|-3) ago 

the only hard g that needs to be listed is graphic

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[–] Naught405 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

gift is good

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[–] Cereal_Lurker 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

But isn't that why the OP is kinda funny?

See @his_dick was just pointing out how silly the GIF (jiff???) was in the OP.

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[–] Acerebral 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Except to prove that there are exceptions to every pronunciation rule in English, so claiming it is pronounced with a hard g because of some rule is also an invalid argument.

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[–] blanketswithsmallpox [S] 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Perhaps I need to hop on this Jiraffe to ford this jorge to find my pet joldfish or should I take my private get to find my old friend Games instead?

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[–] reggieb 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

Giraffe is a silly example. The g is soft.

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[–] jakeinator21 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Ford? I think you meant chevy.

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[–] MonkeeSage 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I edit my GIFs with the jimp graphical editor.

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[–] just_signed_up 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

How do you say "gift"?

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[–] caboose684 1 points 40 points (+41|-1) ago  (edited ago)

So...
RADAR - "ray-DEER"
SONAR - "sah-NAIR"
and my favorite
LASER - "laa-SEER"

There's a long history of not pronouncing abbreviations using the phonetics of the root words. There's also a long history of not pronouncing things the way they "should" be based solely on spelling. Incidentally, soft or hard Gs are usually determined by the following vowel: a soft i or e is usually preceded by a soft G. Note all the "usually"s: there are a bunch of exceptions to that, too.

The person who invented the word, and the people in that environment, used one pronunciation. Once it got out of that closed environment, other people who had only read it but never heard it before had to decide how to pronounce it. Some of them went with the hard G, some with the soft.

Consult a quality dictionary and you will find many many words with multiple pronunciations. You will find many words where the pronunciation differs from origin words. You will find many words that begin with or include both hard and soft G sounds. You will find both pronunciations of GIF listed.

With so many counter-examples, the only possible way to determine a "correct" pronunciation is the only thing without a contradicting example: the creator (and namer) of the format did not explicitly state that both a hard G and a soft G are correct, only a soft G. However, both hard and soft G sounds have become acceptable through widespread use, so it's kind of an asinine argument to be having at all.

tl;dr The gangly ginger gestured at the grotesque giant graffiti and said, "Read it.". Or did he say, "Read it."?

edits: spelling, formatting

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[–] timholt 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

The one that gets me is that, supposedly, “quixotic” is correctly pronounced “quicks-ottic”. I’m more than happy to pronounce it that way, it’s just weird, is all.

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[–] h3lblad3 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Wait, how did you pronounce it?!

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[–] Ishamoridin 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

LASER - "laa-SEER"

Light Amplification by the Stimulated Emission of Radiation. It's far from universal to use a long 'e' on emission, in fact I was part way through my comment before I realised that you might say it that way, the vast majority of times I've heard that word has used a short 'eh' sound which fits perfectly with the pronunciation of laser.

Not that I disagree with your point, just that laser is a terrible example to illustrate it :P

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[–] caboose684 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Fair point. I just looked it up and realized I don't pronounce emission correctly, although I say it like everybody else where I'm from. Actually, I guess it's supposed to be a short i sound, which doesn't fit with laser. In any case, the Z sound instead of the S sound is still relevant.

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[–] caboose684 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

You mean like laser? PAL, GIMP, FAQ.

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[–] PM_ME_YOUR_FART_BOX 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

jpeg

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[–] nofatchix 3 points 21 points (+24|-3) ago  (edited ago)

This argument is bullshit. People say SCUBA all the time and if you want to break it down like that, you wouldn't say Self Contained OON-derwater Breathing Apparatus.

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[–] Johno 0 points 30 points (+30|-0) ago 

Canadian here. Sorry, but I always take my SCUBA gear when I'm oot and aboot on my boot incase I need to go oonderwooter.

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[–] wafflesid 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

God I love you canadians....can we hug?

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[–] freetoshare81 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Na, you're just ahoy toyder.

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[–] chrimata 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

The only true answer

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[–] oregano 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

The A in SCUBA doesn't make sense either then. It's not uh-pparatus

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[–] Falconic 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

But..thats not where the "uh" comes from.

It's pronounced scuba in the same way that Cuba is pronounced the way it is.

Sc - (sk) as in School

Uba - (ooba) as in Cuba.

(sk) + (ooba) = Po TAY to.

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[–] Repetitivemotion 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

it's a lazy american a so... yes I do say uh-pparatus

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[–] cynoclast 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Well I refuse to pronounce "bimmer" any other way but phonetically. If they wanted it to say BEE-MER they should spell it that way.

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[–] schwanstucker 3 points 21 points (+24|-3) ago 

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[–] takshis 1 points 15 points (+16|-1) ago 

I'm so glad you linked Extra Crunchy. True connoisseur here.

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[–] schwanstucker 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Actually, my fave is Laura Scudders Natural, just peanuts and salt, OR...Nutella. But Gif Extra crunchy is fine, too...( :-) )

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[–] 2716057 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

What kind of monster are you? I don't put cheese in my butter and call it "Extra Crunchy Country Crock!"

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[–] ZeldaFish 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

This needed to happen.

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[–] Mrpixel 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

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[–] Lemon_Tree 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Thank you. Though appropriate given the content of the .gif, this is a thousand times better in video form.

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[–] Mrpixel 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

No Problemo.

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[–] Sammy1Am 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

I buy this argument as long as you also call them "jey-feg" images (the "p" in jpeg stand for "photographic").

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[–] martinidude 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I think this is my favourite argument so far.

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[–] Healdb 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

The inventor of the GIF format wanted it pronounced "jif" so he could say "Choosy programmers choose JIF".

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[–] Johno 1 points 10 points (+11|-1) ago 

There was a video floating around a while ago wherein the argument was made that the inventor of the format is a programmer and not a linguist, so we don't need to listen to him.

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[–] TexasWithADollarsign 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

That statement was made by someone who also wasn't a linguist, so we don't need to listen to him either.

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[–] jakeinator21 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

While I prefer to pronounce it jif, I don't think you deserved to be downvoated, so here's an upvoat.

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