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[–] Saufsoldat 23 points -22 points (+1|-23) ago 

Just out of curiosity, why do conspiratards think Israel wanted to sink a US ship? What would the grand plan behind that be?

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[–] EllenPaosEgo 0 points 19 points (+19|-0) ago  (edited ago)

First of all you are arguing the wrong point. It is not a theory that Israel did it, they even admit to it, and instead claim it was an accident. Israel was trying to get America to join the war with Egypt at the time, and this was a basic false flag.

Now let's argue the only point that is actually up for debate, was it an accident or not. Israel bombed the USS Liberty for 2 hours, and in those 2 hours one Israeli pilot refused to attack the ship and kept saying through the transmissions that it is a US ship and was begging for a ceasefire. He was arrested as soon as he landed his plane. The ship that Israel claims they mistook the USS Liberty for is half the length of the USS Liberty and looks much different. There were also 2 large and clear American flags on the ship, and they survived the missiles, torpedos, and machine gun fire. The USS Liberty had intelligence gathering as one of its main functions, and intercepted IAF communications and heard the pilots say that it was an American ship, and being ordered to keep bombing. This doesn't appear to be an accident to any rational person that looks at the facts.

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[–] Kal 1 points 6 points (+7|-1) ago 

Shills haven't learned that 'conspiritards' is only a tell at this point.

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[–] littul_kitton 3 points -2 points (+1|-3) ago 

Israel was trying to get America to join the war with Egypt at the time, and this was a basic false flag.

It was astonishingly inept if it was. It was not like the mighty (sarcasm) Egyptian Air Force could secretly attack any vessel that possessed a radio, let alone an NSA SIGINT vessel. Since I learned of the attack I have thought it was a ghastly error in judgement by a lower-ranked general officer. They were fortunate that the American people ignored it rather than perceive a Pearl Harbor-style attack. The vaunted intelligence and cunning of the Jews apparently has its limits.

The real question is whether it was worse or better than blowing up a Chinese embassy.

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[–] Saufsoldat 9 points -8 points (+1|-9) ago 

First of all you are arguing the wrong point. It is not a theory that Israel did it, they even admit to it, and instead claim it was an accident.

I never argued that, stop putting words in my mouth.

Israel was trying to get America to join the war with Egypt at the time, and this was a basic false flag.

That makes no sense, it's way too easy to figure out who sunk the ship.

in those 2 hours one Israeli pilot refused to attack the ship and kept saying through the transmissions that it is a US ship and was begging for a ceasefire. He was arrested as soon as he landed his plane.

Source? For any of this, actually.

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[–] FeLpZ187 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

they did, tho...

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[–] Saufsoldat 6 points -6 points (+0|-6) ago 

No shit, nobody argued that they didn't.

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[–] WinstonQSmith 6 points -4 points (+2|-6) ago  (edited ago)

Notice how you asked what motive Israel would have had to do this intentionally and notice that not a single word in the reply goes to motive. It's like they have a complete inability to think coherently. The first question you ask when trying to solve a crime or mystery is "cui bono," who gains. Not here. You get, "Google it." "Look it up." "Shill." The most basic reasoning is completely absent here.

I used to ask why, because this is another conspiracy theory of theirs, the Jews would want to destroy Europe by importing millions of Muslims when the Jews are successful, wealthy and powerful in Europe. Again, crickets. None of their conspiracy theories make any sense. "Jew, bad," is the extent of their reasoning.

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[–] Octoclops 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

not a single word in the reply goes to motive

Israel was trying to get America to join the war with Egypt at the time

It's right there. Can you actually read or is your reply just copied and pasted from a list?

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[–] Saufsoldat 6 points -6 points (+0|-6) ago 

One guy said it was a false flag, but the fact that Israel took full responsibility a mere two hours after the attack sort of invalidates that.

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[–] DickHertz 5 points -4 points (+1|-5) ago  (edited ago)

Just Google USS Liberty. Is that too hard?

The cartoon on the other hand would only be posted by a hillbilly.

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[–] Cheesebooger 2 points 1 points (+3|-2) ago  (edited ago)

Hillbillies are great, hard-working, low crime people who have many inventions under their belt. Mothers Day, which just passed, as an example. don't believe the jewbaggery bullshit about "hillbillies" because its all bullshit. (((They're))) stealing natural resources from "hillbillies" and dehumanize them at every turn for a reason

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[–] Saufsoldat 9 points -9 points (+0|-9) ago 

I know about the incident, I'm questioning why they'd sink a US vessel on purpose which most of the conspiratards seem to think they did.