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[–] Drkadrka 5 points 66 points (+71|-5) ago 

I wish he had.

California neglected their infrastructure in favor of paying for illegals to go to school, college, get health and financial benefits, sit in jail instead of being deported, and that's just the mistakes in management related to illegals... their handling of taxation on businesses and their ridiculous regulations have prevented many other industries growing which would have filled their coffers.

Let them lie. Let them lie in their own filth.

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[–] Amphiprion 1 points 52 points (+53|-1) ago 

Hmm. Admittedly, I live in CA, so call me biased but:

Those are rural northern ca counties. Mostly republican. As such, they are entirely unrepresented anymore.

They get steamrolled by the cities.

Yeah, maybe everyone should move every election, but the reason they got neglected has to do with politicians ignoring them.

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[–] Drkadrka 0 points 22 points (+22|-0) ago 

Yeah, I used to live there for a couple years, in both northern and southern Cal; in SD, LA, SJC, OAK, Santa Rosa, and even in Yuba for 2 months.

My statement stands because where is the majority of sales tax revenue derived from? The Cities. So let California pay for their own shit, it will largely come from the cities anyways. Giving them money is only going to reinforce the liberal mentality in SAC that they can just get money from elsewhere if they don't spend their revenues wisely.

Outside of the cities gets crapped on. Taxation without representation. Trust me, I know this, it was the biggest complaint from the farmers and ranchers that I worked with, and discussing it was a non starter with the libs because if you brought it up they devolved to attacking them for not living in the cities and driving diesel trucks and pay for illegal farm hands and basically anything but discussing the issue of proper representation.

But this national attention should be easily capitalized upon by any political operator worth their salt. The feet of the political class should be held to the fire for this fiasco. And if things don't change, it is a big enough issue to make the argument for secession from California and establishment of the State of Jefferson.

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[–] New_Iso 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I'm bias against minority voice because in modern political discourse it has gone full 451. I also think a lot of conservative fall under the same category.

However, should there be a legitimate endangerment on part of a minority, actions should be taken to thoroughly consider the minority's stance. The devil is in the details.

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[–] Drkadrka 4 points 5 points (+9|-4) ago 

No, people don't get to shirk responsibility off onto the other guys when you don't hold the government responsible. If you feel that you aren't being represented fairly, it is your civic duty to protest and make your position known, as we are all responsible for the actions of our government. Otherwise you end up where our country is on the national level and at the state level in many states, corrupted to the core. Complacency is a fool's errand and just ensures that the seemingly inevitable becomes so, rather than activity, which has the potential to change the inevitable to the improbable.

I can't count how many times I had people say something to the effect of "but what can you do?" I tried to tell the farmers that you don't support the cities, you let them starve, you take a slightly lesser profit in the short term to get better treatment from the government. You take your produce and sell it Eastward, if you have to form a co-op with other farmers to truck your produce to Reno, Boise, Las Vegas, SLC, you do it. By refusing food to LA and the Bay Area, you can punch back above your weight class.

They were too lazy, too afraid, too complacent. Even when I made tentative arrangements to have a couple truckers ready to go, and found buyers for almost 90% of their food products in Vegas, SLC and Denver, they dragged their feet because they were unsure about pissing off the food aggregators they had worked with for years. I tried to explain that doing it my way would give them leverage to force the food companies to use their political capital for the farmers benefit instead of using it against them, otherwise they would be unable to fill their steady orders and have to raise prices drastically to bring in food from further away.

Nobody got on board in the end. They were all afraid to take the first step and they chose to stay with the status quo. That was over a decade ago. They made their beds.

I do know that most of that water goes to the inland empire to water the farms and down to LA through the aqueduct or to corporations who have bought it up for pennies. It is, IMO, wrong, but it is what the government of California has chosen to do, and since the people haven't taken action against their political creatures, it will only continue.

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[–] Gigan 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

No. Trump said he would be a president for all Americans.

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[–] Drkadrka 3 points 6 points (+9|-3) ago 

And he can be. By refusing to encumber the other 49 states with a financial burden that they had no part in creating and receive no benefits from fixing. Why should the other 49 states have to pay for what California failed to take care of? Arizona, Oregon, Nevada, none of the neighboring states draw water from this source.

This is strictly a California problem that is going to cost over $250 million dollars to repair by their estimate. Why should we have to pay over 5 million per state to pay to fix their dam? This is why I am against a handout. I would be fully willing to lend my support to a loan, with a reasonable market based interest rate and mandatory payment schedule with enumerated and fixed penalties for failing to make full payments in a timely manner.

Short of this, California can wish in one hand and shit in the other and see which fills up first.

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[–] heroinwinsagain 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

california is the 6 largest economy in the world. how much money is hung up in the political class of california? you have elected so many people that you have diminishing returns.

its obvious that bureaucracy will get you nowhere, but will make some law makers very wealthy.

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[–] Drkadrka 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago  (edited ago)

1-my burger meat comes from a rancher on a family ranch in Prescott AZ.

2-my lettuce comes from my garden.

3-your attitude towards the AG workers is deplorable. And yes I chose that word specifically for you. So you are okay with some illegals doing the jobs you don't want your kids to do because of all the chemicals used on the soft bodied fruits? Do you only allow them to eat certified organic strawberries? Because all that chemical spray remains in/on the fruits, not to mention what drifts onto neighboring crops and farms that may be much closer to harvest.

If your real concern is the cultivation methods, do you shop at the farmers market, and talk to the farmers to make sure that they are using sustainable agriculture methods by running low till operations, using ground cover to suppress weeds, and rotating crops properly in order to build fertility in the soil instead of adding in chemical NPK fertilizers that leave out the micronutrients? Do you turn down a deal on asparagus or cherries if they are not being grown sustainably on farms that are free of herbicides, pesticides and fungicides? I would wager not, and that you are just attempting to virtue signal to us here. If you are, I applaud you for the efforts, because it is a damned hard thing to do and to do consistently.

And in the end, it all comes down to people being too complacent to keep their government in check. As far as I am aware, there is no state in the Union that requires the funds to be in the account before it is spent anymore. This is a clear indication of what is wrong. The states are writing checks and hoping they clear, instead of maintaining conservativism in the place where it matters most, financial matters. Indiana was the last to require a line item balanced budget as far as I know, and I believe this requirement was repealed a few years back. If California hadn't signed onto entitlement programs that they didn't have the funding for, and had properly allocated funds knowing that economics are built on bubbles and busts, they wouldn't be in the shape they are in. And it is every citizen of California's fault for not holding their government accountable.

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[–] malloryquinn 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Why is it not a felony to knowingly hire illegals?

Fuck your business if it relies on slave labour. What the fuck is wrong with Democrats? Founded by the KKK, and always building ghettos, and pro slaver business.

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[–] bloodguard 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Trump should withhold all the federal funds from Sacramento and contract work directly. I'd love to see corrupt and incompetent CalTrans booted and have a private contractor actually start fixing our 3rd world roads and freeways.

Same with with water infrastructure. Instead of giving money to senile Jerry's 100 billion dollar slow speed "choo choo" start building reservoirs and desalination plants and undercut the authority of all our petty water resource boards.

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[–] hypercat 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

HAHAHA. See how well that went with the highspeed rail. The "private contractor" is Feinstein's husband. Dropped a billion dollars in his pocketbook and NOTHING.

The private contractor for the bridge was using cheap shitty chinese steel and it's broke as shit.

We need REAL workers who can do their job, not shit contractors.

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[–] Brigbjones 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

I live in California and i wish i could say the same. I wish this would be the moment that our leadership here changes course but it won't. Leftists seem incapable of introspection.

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[–] malloryquinn 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Leftists seem incapable of introspection.

They operate on consensus. Not on reason

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[–] electric_lolita 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I'll be on the look out for this fake tweet to show up on Facebook.

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[–] Dontpanic 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Trump should withhold disaster relief of any kind until CA gives up on sanctuary cities.

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[–] Slayfire122 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago  (edited ago)

The politicians don't care about them. That damn dam issue happened in Trump territory (aka rural northern California)

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[–] Artofchoke 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

LOL

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[–] Rocket1966 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

That's hilarious !!

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[–] RoryBellowsLives 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Trump has a big opportunity here to divert attention away from the Flynn resignation and begin promotion of his stated plans for improved nationwide infrastructure.

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