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[–] varialus ago  (edited ago)

Totally missing the point. I know you can't actually prove a flat earth, but a certain portion of of physical laws can be stretched to make it appear like the earth is flat, which is fun in its own right. A flat earth with spatial distortions that make physical laws seem like it's spherical even though it's actually flat would account for your proof. The earth is flat, it's just all of space and time that is warped all around it to make it appear spherical.

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[–] kry0 ago 

If you can find a model that distort physical laws to make spherical trigonometry map 1 to 1 to polar trigonometry, then you'd probably win some sort of international mathematics prize.

Until then, perhaps claiming that "physical laws can be stretched to make it appear like the earth is flat" is fun, but absolutely not evidence of a flat earth.

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[–] varialus 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

TL;DR Conceptual philosophical musings too tl;dr for me to proof read, but not too long for me to think and type out on a phone. I hope you enjoy, lol!

Edit: I didn't think I was gonna, but I read through it once and fixed likely most of my typos.

From the perspective of a flat earth proponent, being able to figure out the mapping is irrelevant to the reality of the 1 to 1 mapping existing. If you begin with the axiom that the earth is flat, then figuring out how it works is unnecessary because it's already known that it's flat. In any case, just imagine the spherical earth smoothly stretched and rolled out through a smooth distortion of the spare time continuum, possibly adding one or more spatial dimensions to maintain the continuity of the stretched and collapsed space bellow and above the earth, and to account for being able to go around the earth, like in a computer program that moves your cursor or character to the opposite edge when going beyond the border, except unlike the computer screen, there wouldn't be a border. If that were the reality, then there wouldn't really be any way to prove it because it would perfectly appear to be spherical. Now if you want to have even more fun imagining, imagine that this flat earth reality applied not only to the surface of the earth, but all physical spherical objects and spherical measurements of space on every scale of size throughout the universe. Such a model, if it existed would be more than a little difficult to prove, it would be difficult to detect or even conceptualize. That's why I said it would be cool if a computer program could do it. I realize that making a program that can do weird stuff is difficult, although some weird stuff is easy when mistakes are made, but in any case, programming it or having an AI figure it out is helpful because computer simulations can display how the distortions are happening, so you can verify that a small distortion is being distorted in the right way, then you can scale the distortion until you reach the desired result. Although admittedly being able to meaningfully display space below and above the surface would of course be challenging, but I'm sure some creative folks might could come up with some model to make it display meaningfully. I know stretching it that much would screw up the math, but when computer simulations are written in a way to be able to handle such weirdness, it doesn't care that it's stretching, squishing, tearing, or collapsing/folding space through itself, it'll just do it regardless of whether it makes sense. I'm not saying it would be easy and I'm not going to try to do it myself, but I think it would be neat. And yes, it may be "impossible" to make such a model consistent across all of time and space, but acknowledging that it would be difficult does not convince me that it for sure would be impossible in theory or impossible practically for humans to ever do. This may all sound far out there, but I've read descriptions of properties of quantum mechanics as well as descriptions of space, time, light, and gravity at extremes such as the "edges" of or "beyond" the universe, and the inside of black holes and the state of the universe "before," at, and immediately after the "time" of the big bang, as well as the empty space between atoms and what atoms and energy actually are, and I've got to tell you, my musings don't seem too far out there compared to real phenomena that actually occur in our real "physical" universe. It may all be philosophical "masturbation" as some would be wont to call it, but if some know-it-all modelled it for the lols and it just happened to solve the grand unifying theory, then it would not have been for naught. Please don't get me wrong, I'm not a flat earth proponent and it's not something that I think about other than when I happen across postings to this subverse, but I think it's fun to think about and while perhaps pointless in one sense, expanding one's conceptual imagination is useful for people who study the real underlying underlying nature of our universe.

Edit: If we're ever to alter the past, or tavel faster than light, or resurrect all past intelligences by perfectly simulating earth and surrounding space backwards through time until we can model them sufficiently to recreate them, or escape the death of the universe, if we're ever to accomplish any of those lofty goals, musings like mine may well play a part. I'm not saying those things are within our reach, but regardless of whether they are, we should nonetheless reach.