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I'd like to keep this discussion on the topic of the fat burning supplements, not ways to lose weight as there are millions of topics about that. Fat burning pills/powders claim to help in weight loss. Have there been any studies to support the claims? I feel like anybody can just throw a proprietary blend of whatever together and market it as whatever they want. Where does one find factual evidence that these supplements work?
Let's look at the bottom line fat burners work, if they have stimulants that promote either fat burning in the cells or through raising certain hormones, as far as citation goes Ephedrine has 98 citations and some have more (Coffeine has around 400!). I'm getting a bit annoyed by the fact that I was the only one that brought up studies and wasn't just saying "I'm not going to bring up any evidence just feels and evil big supplement industry"
Are fat burners worth your money? Maybe, maybe not, depends how much money someone has and how much that person is willing to spend for it.
Are fat burners useless? No, not really because someone that knows a bit about proper nutrition can use the effects of fat burners (Less hunger and higher artificial TDEE) to supplement their cut if they need it.
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Examine has a section just for fat burners here, so yes, like you wrote there's research supporting their function, so I am sure that they do help you lose weight. I just think that there's no need to use it to control your hunger and get an artificially higher TDEE, since you can do this through behavior. Some foods are more filling than others, and you can just lower your calorie intake to lose the fat you should lose. Intermittent fasting also helps control hunger, or even just eating always at the same times. There are more things that can be done to control calorie intake (eating veggies before eating carbs, drinking water with meals, etc.). I know OP wants to keep the talk away from how to diet, but my point is that there's plenty of ways to lose weight without having to buy a supplement.
Why would I avoid using any type of supplements to lose fat? there's nothing wrong with the supplements themselves, but most likely the reason a person is fat, is because of their behavior, so the weight loss will be temporary.
Now if you are talking about an athlete who has goods habits and some knowledge, he'll probably even have experience with losing weight without using a supplement with the same efficiency. Then again, if a person, knowing all of this still chooses to use them, that's fine by me.
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[–] Coz 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
People will gain the weight back if they don't learn proper feeding habits. It's a clutch.
[–] nilceps 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Let's look at the bottom line fat burners work, if they have stimulants that promote either fat burning in the cells or through raising certain hormones, as far as citation goes Ephedrine has 98 citations and some have more (Coffeine has around 400!). I'm getting a bit annoyed by the fact that I was the only one that brought up studies and wasn't just saying "I'm not going to bring up any evidence just feels and evil big supplement industry"
Are fat burners worth your money? Maybe, maybe not, depends how much money someone has and how much that person is willing to spend for it.
Are fat burners useless? No, not really because someone that knows a bit about proper nutrition can use the effects of fat burners (Less hunger and higher artificial TDEE) to supplement their cut if they need it.
[–] Coz ago (edited ago)
Examine has a section just for fat burners here, so yes, like you wrote there's research supporting their function, so I am sure that they do help you lose weight. I just think that there's no need to use it to control your hunger and get an artificially higher TDEE, since you can do this through behavior. Some foods are more filling than others, and you can just lower your calorie intake to lose the fat you should lose. Intermittent fasting also helps control hunger, or even just eating always at the same times. There are more things that can be done to control calorie intake (eating veggies before eating carbs, drinking water with meals, etc.). I know OP wants to keep the talk away from how to diet, but my point is that there's plenty of ways to lose weight without having to buy a supplement.
Why would I avoid using any type of supplements to lose fat? there's nothing wrong with the supplements themselves, but most likely the reason a person is fat, is because of their behavior, so the weight loss will be temporary.
Now if you are talking about an athlete who has goods habits and some knowledge, he'll probably even have experience with losing weight without using a supplement with the same efficiency. Then again, if a person, knowing all of this still chooses to use them, that's fine by me.