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[–] Alopix 21 points -19 points (+2|-21) ago 

Yeah! If they don't like being poor, they should just stop being poor!


[–] FeefeeImpaler 1 points 17 points (+18|-1) ago 

... Or just adopt the "beggars can't be choosers" attitude and be grateful they're being fed at all.


[–] Alopix 3 points -3 points (+0|-3) ago 

That's true, they should be happy with what they have. But you can't turn that around to justify an anti-poor activist governor ignoring democracy and acting unilaterally to advance something Maine already voted no on. LePage is an idiot acting on dogma rather than any kind of evidence.


[–] Ghetto_Shitlord 3 points 5 points (+8|-3) ago 

Agreed, there is still plenty of opportunity out there for those that are willing to work for it. I used to own a business so you won't get any boo hoo from me. I was poor, I DID SOMETHING ABOUT IT, so in effect, I stopped being poor.


[–] prisonersandpriests 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I did the same thing. Came from the kind of shoeless redneck family that passes the tooth around at Thanksgiving so everyone gets to chew. I'm now a small business owner (not meth related, I swear!) and enjoy plenty of disposable income. I never took a dime of government money, not because I didn't qualify but because I could always find a way to make ends meet.

I think social safety nets are important. I think everyone should be afforded the basics to stay alive while they try to improve their situation. On the other side, there are far too many people who abuse the system and give the whole thing a bad name because they're the ones that are the most visible. Oversight of these programs should be better. That doesn't mean throwing more people at it (the government loves to throw people at a problem and say that it creates doesn't). It means monitoring and counseling.


[–] Alopix 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

This is a fallacy of composition. Just because you succeeded doesn't mean everyone is able to.


[–] Fireark 3 points -2 points (+1|-3) ago 

Exactly! For the most part, being poor is a choice. (Not being sarcastic, btw.)


[–] Alopix 2 points -2 points (+0|-2) ago 

Right, in the same way that getting cancer is a choice. Making dumb decisions can get you there real easily. But to turn around and extrapolate that all people with cancer got it from chewing tobacco or huffing benzene is illogical (and more than a little sociopathic.)