I want to work in a bariatric hospital but it's hard to sympathize with fat fucks; especially if they don't take care of themselves and do what their doctors say. I want to be an office manager so I don't come in constant contact with fatties as I monitor their health. An SJW told me that I need to say "I know how you feel and I understand." before I say "If you want to live, you must do what the doctor asks of you or else your life would mean nothing." The SJW even did a roleplay with me where she pretended to be an alcoholic and I pretended to be a medical worker so it went like this.
Me: That alcohol will kill you. If you don't stop, you will die a slow and painful death.
SJW: I don't care and I'm happy with myself. Each person is different and I think I'm fine.
Me: If that's true, then why are you in my office?
SJW: I just wanted to see if I can continue living the way I want to and see if you have any advice that will help me without giving up my drinking habits.
Me: I just told you to stop drinking alcohol and you may be smiling now but soon, you will die a slow and painful death to the point of regret.
After that roleplay, she told me that I need to have sympathy for others if I want to work for a hospital of any kind including bariatric hospitals. She told me that when a bariatric patient is suffering from depression and food addiction, they need sympathy and be told that they have the willpower to change. Here's the problem; even if I tell them that and they get bariatric surgery, the rest of the treatment plan is in their hands. If they're sneaking in their trigger foods in their fat rolls and they get caught, the doctor has the right to sign them off to get discharged from their treatment centers for failure to follow with treatment plans. Skinny people suffer from depression too. So, if you're a medical worker, how do you deal with bariatric patients who are just admitted into the hospital for treatment?
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[–] thebluelady 2 points -1 points 1 point (+1|-2) ago (edited ago)
1) why do you want to work around fat people if you hate them? this is really confusing to me. i've seen you post a few times about wanting to work at one but it sounds like you'd be miserable because literally all it is is working with fat people!
2) in healthcare, compassion goes a long way. beside manner is important. if you actually want patients to trust and listen to you, you have a better chance of doing that if they feel like you empathize with them. this is part and parcel to effective healthcare. that's why i think this is a strange job for you! a lot of working in healthcare is sitting across from people who know better and being mystified at their stupidity and putting on your healthcare face to try to say, 'that's a common misconception, i understand why you thought that, but this is the truth' or 'well, it looks like this isn't working for you, but i think we can come up with something to help you' vs. setting up a situation where the doctor is viewed as a cruel warden impeding their freedom.
none of this is fat sympathy. i agree with you that they shouldn't need this. but part of working in healthcare is not letting it show on your face when your patients are gross dumbasses killing themselves while you're at work.
[–] 3237758? 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
There's compassion, and there's "I know how you feel and I understand." Sooo... lie to them? How can you know and understand when you haven't gone through it yourself? What if they call you on your bullshit, what do you follow that up with?
As a professional, your job is to tell people the truth, deal with the problem, and do so professionally and efficiently, not tip toe around someone's fee fees. Besides, we know the fat community demands are totally conflicting and opposing. For every person who doesn't want to be called fat, there's another who demands it, and for the exact same reasons! It is best to steer clear of the mine field that is their feelings and concentrate strictly on their concrete problems in a professional and clinical manner, let them deal with their own feelings when they're hit with cold, hard, scientific facts.
[–] thebluelady ago
i know this probably sounds good to you, but there's really nothing that supports this in healthcare. you're trying to make someone trust and listen to you, and this is almost entirely a 'feefees' thing. anyone who works in healthcare can tell you that for every patient who responds well to the cold hard truth there's like ten who are ike, 'that sounds bad but it probably won't happen to me so i'm going to keep smoking and not taking my meds and eating like shit!'
[–] SUPA_FUPA [S] 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
1) To remind myself that there's so much more to life than just food. I've encountered people in real life who do nothing but talk about food and how it makes them happy. I want to be a medical office manager not a nurse or doc. Plus, these fatties remind me of suicidal people who rather eat themselves to death because they would rather have a "short happy life than a long miserable one". I want to be part of a team that wants to stop this. I could do embassy work for Vietnam in America but I have to live in Vietnam to obtain Vietnamese citizenship first so my dream job there may take long training sessions.
2) I like to have compassion but they must understand that their needs go first even before their feelings. To live is to make sacrifices than to overindulge one's self to death. Suicide is one of the medical topics I find rather interesting; especially if it involves food and obesity which doesn't get reported often enough to make headlines in anything. After all, you don't hear too much about depressed fatties going to buffets alone.