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[–] mystic_chihuahua 0 points 43 points (+43|-0) ago 

I think there definitely needs to be a male contraceptive for a couple of the reasons it mentioned.

I wish excess fat was a reliable contraceptive for both sexes.

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[–] shart_in_a_fat_roll 8 points 19 points (+27|-8) ago 

This is the first time I've given the issue any serious thought, because quite honestly I don't care very much.

But in the interest of fairness, shouldn't the male be allowed to "abort" his parental responsibility during the same period of time the woman can? By abort, I mean formally declare that he can't support the child and give up custodial rights.

Then, the woman can choose if she wants to abort the child, or raise it on her own. After signing the document, the man would have absolutely no legal responsibilities or rights with respect to the child at all, any more than any other random dude.

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[–] PM_ME_UR_NOODZ 0 points 22 points (+22|-0) ago 

This is the first time i've given the issue an serious thought

It shows. You're trying to think about it logically. In the real world, fair or not, the interests of the child, the state, and the mother are all placed higher than the interests of the biological father.

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[–] Swole_is_life 1 point 11 points (+12|-1) ago 

It's more that the law prioritizes the welfare of the baby. If she chooses to abort there is no baby and no issue, but if she doesn't then there is another human who needs care.

The simple answer is that everyone needs to stop viewing consequence free sex as a basic human right. It's not and never has been. Don't fuck someone unless you don't mind raising a kid with them.

I have precisely zero sympathy for a dude who is stuck paying child support because he banged some skank. You CAN survive without sex.

Note: this is far from advocating abstinence only, just saying that it's stupid to act like you can have all the sex you want with all the people you want and not deal with consequences. It's not unlike food.

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[–] ourgalfriday 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

You're absolutely right - but I cringe every time I see somebody who looks like Comic Book Guy shilling for legal paternal surrender. Good message, repugnant messenger.

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[–] dildonkers 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

It all makes sense! FA is the feminists' way of removing the natural male contraceptive; fat.

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[–] Banterbury 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago  (edited ago)

There is actually a backlash against producing one and now Pharma companies don't want to put much stock into it because of it. A lot of women bitch about how they wouldn't trust a man to be honest about being on it in the first place, so already that indicates less money as it's assumed men wouldn't take it. Also there would be a projected increase in STIs and all that because less men would be interested in using condoms if they were actually on the pill. And finally one of the biggest complaints has actually been women losing "control" over the situation where men now dictate if they want children or not, no longer just the woman having control over if a child has any chance of occurring. So basically there would be bad press and loss in profits because you'd have whiny people screaming and protesting. Basically despite some people asking for it in the UK, U.S, Canada, aus etc, it really isn't economically friendly so companies don't want to touch it

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[–] shart_in_a_fat_roll 1 point 1 point (+2|-1) ago 

A lot of women bitch about how they wouldn't trust a man to be honest about being on it in the first place

Source? Sounds like a strawman. Even without the pill, you can sabotage a condom. Also, who has ever said men like to go around tricking women into pregnancy? That's like the reversal of the common trope.

no longer just the woman having control over if a child has any chance of occurring.

Ditto. Also sounds like a strawman. How can anyone reasonably argue that only the woman should be able to decide if a child is conceived. That's an indefensible argument.

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[–] I_Rimmed_A_Cat 0 points 25 points (+25|-0) ago 

|invasive surgery 

As a male who's had a vasectomy, let me tell you that it's not invasive at all. I think the surgeon spent more time scrubbing my balls than actually doing the procedure. It's about a week to fully recover to where you can use your penis again, they don't give you strong meds because you don't need them(I stopped taking my pain meds after day 2), it only cost about $450 (for surgery that's cheap as shit), it's only a tiny incision on your sack, and they don't even put you under (the surgeon numbed my balls area and put up a divider, but I was conscience the whole time) . Sterilizing a woman is way more dangerous, painful, and expensive. So man the fuck up and stop your bitching.

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[–] droopy2525 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

Fucking thank you!

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[–] mmmmdonuts 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I've been hemming and hawwing about getting sterilized for a while, as my bf won't do it (he says his dr. said he can't do it until he's 40, I say find a new dr.). He is a complete retard, because we both know that our relationship won't last forever and he is lucky to find someone like me that is 100% childfree. You can't trust everyone out there, I've heard lots of stories where the woman got knocked up because she secretly wanted to even though she said otherwise. Maybe I should just bite the bullet and do it myself anyway. Oh, and I hate fat people.

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[–] I_Rimmed_A_Cat 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

(Bit of a rant)

This shit right here is what pisses me off, men who won't take responsibility for their penis. My mom and sister both had their tubes tied after they had a fuck ton of babies because their husbands were to much of a pussy to have anyone touch their manhood. I think a lot of the reason is so many men are misinformed about what they do to your fun zone. I was 23 and child free when I had my vasectomy and I remember so many bros freaking out because they thought it would be too painful, wouldn't be able to cum anymore, and be less of a man because of testosirone levels drop. I had to explain to them that they don't do anything to your balls, they destroy the tubes connecting your balls and prostate so it doesn't really hurt. The prostate gland is the thing that makes the white cum so he was just a dumb ass for thinking you could no longer cum and my testosirone levels haven't dropped because they are just cutting small tubes. Every reason points to it being smarter for the male to be sterilized, the biggest being money. ($500 for males vs $6000 for women). It's so much safer since sacks are outside the body with nothing in the way while women get cut in the abdomen where other organs are located. Ultimately it boils down to if you don't want kids you're going to have to be a responsible adult whether it be telling your bf you can't enter unless you're snipped, birth control, or get your tubes tied. Like you said about woman lying, my bro was dating some girl who was lying about taking birth control because she desperately wanted a baby. I had many other reasons for doing it but I was practically sprinting to the doctors when I found that out.

Ps. If your insurance is through Obama care, your bf has to wait 30 days after a consultation before they can preform a vasectomy.

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[–] Red_August ago 

Does he perhaps want to keep his option to have children later in life, perhaps with someone else? I'm not sure I follow you.

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[–] btmims 1 point 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

I believe that, technically, surgeries are considered "invasive" because they "invade" your body (cut open, reach inside of you, and make a semi-lasting structural change). Hence the desire for another form of less invasive, semi-permanent male contraceptive, such as a pill or that injection in your Gooch that can easily be reversed with another injection.

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[–] BigBadWolf 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

It's about a week to fully recover to where you can use your penis again.

I dunno about "use your penis". I jerked it after about 8 hours but a week was about right for letting Mrs. BigBadWolf bounce up and down on it.

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[–] SeigneurdesEtrons 15 points 16 points (+31|-15) ago  (edited ago)

Is this a thing? Seriously? MEN complaining about being saddled with unwanted pregnancies??

Wear a bloody condom and quit bitching you fat fuck. If with a baby-hungry potential baby-momma, rinse it out afterwards or, even better, don't fuck baby-hungry potential baby-mommas.

EDIT: ITT, a bunch of morons seem to be mass-downvoting an obvious truth: if you fuck without a rubber, you may create a life. That life requires care. Fucking with condoms obviates the argument. If you're worried about the infinite minority of females who may nefariously use your baby batter against your will, dump Tabasco into the condom before tossing it out.

Females aren't your bloody enemy you bunch of should-be wankers.

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[–] shart_in_a_fat_roll 1 point 19 points (+20|-1) ago  (edited ago)

I think the point of this movement is that women and men both have contraceptive options, but after the baby is conceived, only women have the choice on whether or not to carry it to term. The male no longer has a say, even though he will be expected to pay child support after the child is born if the woman chooses to carry it.

They kinda have a point, but the ham in this photo does a terrible job making it? (anyone surprised) For the record, this also ranks quite low on my list of give a fucks.

I didn't know what a meninist was, and had to read the entire sign before I realized he was advocating for mens rights. I thought his title meant "choice for men" is a bad thing.

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[–] SeigneurdesEtrons 6 points 9 points (+15|-6) ago  (edited ago)

Hey, there are plenty of dads who get shafted by the system. This system came about to protect women, who generally get shafted WAAAAYY worse. There is no good middle-ground from a legislative standpoint.

...the solution? Don't fuck without a condom unless you're REALLY FUCKING SURE she isn't a cunt.

There are plenty of douchebags and dumb cunts out there who make unwanted babies through casual sex. I'm entirely pro-sex in any form one desires, but don't be a fucking moron, lest you face the consequences (which are, once again, overwhelmingly worse for women; from STDs to babies to the overconsumption of post-coital Kleenex).

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[–] CttCJim 4 points 5 points (+9|-4) ago 

lurk on /r/mensrights for a while, you might be surprised at some of the little (and not so little) sexisms in our culture. offtopic here so i won't go into detail, but yeah.

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[–] blue5car 1 point 6 points (+7|-1) ago  (edited ago)

A baby = less food for it.

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[–] MidwestAnomaly88 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

We all know that's the real tragedy he's facing here.

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[–] CttCJim 1 point 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

If the condom fails, which can happen easily, then the man has zero say in what happens with the pregnancy. It's not unheard of for a woman to show up years later when her exbf has a good job and basically financially ruin him with payments to support a child he never wanted and took all the necessary steps to prevent.

But getting back on topic, this guy has nothing to worry about, as he'd probably never achieve penetration.

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[–] SeigneurdesEtrons 3 points -2 points (+1|-3) ago 

Rape notwithstanding, a man has absolute control of whether he becomes a dad: he wears a rubber. If properly worn, they are pretty much a 100% barrier to knocking someone up.

...sorry mate, you boink unsafely, you're on the hook as much as she is.

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[–] ThinPerson 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

He chooses to believe he chose abstinence

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[–] MidwestAnomaly88 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Hambody doesn't have to worry about any of this. I don't think women are lining up to spawn with this thing.

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[–] EarlPoncho 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

bro you're not getting laid why are you worried about this lel

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[–] DessertFox 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I looked up paternity fraud out of curiosity. It doesn't actually look that common; nowhere near as common as you would think if you watch daytime TV. Most of the cases listed on Wikipedia deal with the ways the laws were not written with this in mind, rather than an intentional legislated sexism.

It turns out that federal judges often try to make fair and intelligent decisions. Some of those judges are so smart it's scary.

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[–] legendaryshitlord 1 point 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

Men have no reproductive rights, but this fatty has no reproductive chances.

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