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[–] TradRight14 [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

But at some point don’t you get therapy and like... better your life?

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[–] tokui 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Their lives and mental/emotional behaviors are disasters. They struggle to attain normalcy, often only achieve semblance. I see their fat as their scar tissue. They need therapy equivalent of plastic surgery concurrent with health advisor. These are huge ventures not easily embarked.

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[–] TradRight14 [S] 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Yea, I understand the impacts of having a high ACE score, but there is also something called personal responsibility. Plenty of people suffer childhood abuse and don’t baloon up to 400lbs.