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[–] Carsandsarcasm 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

When fats say "B-b-but they use waist trainers to get a tiny waist," it ignores the fact that 90% of the waist training job is being thin to begin. A trainer won't help you get a tiny waist if you're a hambeast. They use this as justification that chasing a small waist is pointless as if the only way it's possible is through potentially damaging corsets. It's like saying someone is only good at basketball because they are tall. I mean, sure, that's an advantage, but they also work really, really hard.

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[–] Pm_me_ur_genetiks 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Not quite. With hambeasts it predominately shapes the fat instead of reducing the floating ribs to minimize the waist.