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[–] Creggieb 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

You cant reason a person out of a position they did not reason themselves into. Fatlogic is feelings based so the person needs to feel bad about the situation in order to want to change.

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[–] BoraxTheFungarian 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Wow, I'm remembering that line.