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Archived First day at my new job, already made a fatty upset (fatpeoplehate)
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[–] mintfleur [S] 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago (edited ago)
Speaking specifically for Canadian Nurses, there is two types of nursing:
-4 year bachelors degree program, you are dealing with patients who are in unstable condition. You put in IV's and deal with medications. RN's work mainly at hospitals. Lots of biology and math involved. You need to have good grades to get in. If anything, its the opposite of a washed up loser career. Pays about $30-$50 an hour. You are able to get your masters after completing this program and work experience. A masters in Nursing makes you a nurse practitioner, and you have the power to diagnose patients and prescribe some medications.
-2 year dipolma/associates degree. You are working with patients who need help, but are otherwise in stable condition. Many of these LPN/RPN work in long term care, or hospitals. You still need to have good math skills and a grasp of biology/chemistry. Slightly easier to get into than a 4 year university program. Still pays well at $25-$35/hr.
Then there's PSW's, you don't need to have any prior knowledge in Math/Biology/Chemistry as you are pretty much assisting with daily living activities. Still an important job, but very little responsibility. Honestly this is considered the washed up loser job that anyone qualifies in. If you are in a nursing program, you can be a PSW after completing a year of school.
[–] SleepyCicada 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
I work with many wonderful RNs and some crappy ones but on average I think they are well educated (I’m in Canada). A hospital based RN who’s willing to put in the hours can easily make 100+K-year plus the benefits, union protection, etc. NPs do pretty much what primary care providers do. There’s this one ER NP I have a borderline crush on - tall, all muscle, smart as a whip. Our ER docs ask him for advice :-)
[–] REEEperMan 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
It must be PSW they're all talking about then when they say they're in "nursing school" or that they're studying to be a "nurse", because most of them have either only high school education or some unrelated college degree... and they're all complete imbeciles, so there's that. It doesn't surprise me at all that these fats would misrepresent their job to make it seem more prestigious.
[–] DorothyMantooth ago
Yes, those people are going to school to become Nurse's Aides or LPNs (Licensed Practical Nurse). LPNs love to talk about being "nurses" but (no insult intended, if we happen to have any LPNs etc. here) they're essentially just basic care workers with slightly more education. I remember my mom--an RN, with a BScN degree--becoming speechless with anger and contempt once when an LPN tried to claim that she could "do anything nurses can do except start IVs." There is a huge difference in education and skills there. In the US we also have the LNP/RNP, which is a Nurse Practitioner, which is a Nurse with a Master's degree instead of a Bachelor's. NPs can basically act as GPs--they can diagnose and treat most conditions, order tests, perform minor surgeries, and prescribe most medications (except for certain narcotics in some states; some states may also require an MD to sign off on their scripts, I'm not 100% sure what the limits of their prescribing abilities are), and they can specialize and open their own practices--our older daughter's pediatrician was an RNP, and a lot of drugstore Doc-in-a-Boxes are staffed by NPs.
So yeah, I think you're right and the "nurses" you're talking to are studying to be Nursing Assistants or LPNs. Nothing wrong with either of those jobs--they're necessary and they can be very skilled and helpful--but they're not nurses the way people usually think of nurses. My mom spent years getting her BScN, and I used to help her study all the time. It's a shitload of stuff to learn.
(I don't mean to denigrate UK medical professionals at all, but the impression I got in the UK was that their nurses are more like LPNs than American RNs, or at least that most of their nurses were more like that--the nursing Sisters, or maybe the Sisters are the ones with more education? I was never clear on that, lol. But UK doctors don't receive as much education and training as American doctors, either, from the info I looked up when I was there, so...)