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[–] Unsung_Heroes_again 1 point 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

I try really hard, i mean in a world where people think wanting to be another sex, or genital surgery is normal thinking patterns, and not abnormal disorders, along with 600 pound whales thinking its natural, gotta hang in there!

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[–] AshlynPixel 3 points 0 points (+3|-3) ago 

still ... I have this weird feeling that someone posted a literal research paper on one of those topics, and you have yet to disprove a single point. probably just me though.

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[–] Unsung_Heroes_again 1 point 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

Are you really arguing that transexuality is not an outlier, non normal behavioral mentality? Cause im pretty sure that's the definition of a mental disorder.

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[–] ShitArchon 1 point -1 points (+0|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Yeah, when I have access to a PC I'll post all the relevant transition stats papers in the off-topic thread and invite everyone to come debunk me. It's a lot more compelling than "you're a bigot!" I suspect most of Voat has never seen Dhejne's study showing a 90% reduction in suicide rates or Charles Moser's "Critique of Autogynephilia" paper. People who share Ben Shapiro's view, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I get the sense that much of Voat is given the impression that the only options are "trannies are delusional, don't give them hormones" and Tumblr "respect my pronouns" bullshit.

It's devoid of the bullshit you see in Blanchardian material (it's notable that Michael Bailey's *The Man Who Would Be Queen not only omits FtMs--not Tumblrinas, but men like Billy Tipton and Buck Angel--but doesn't have a single fucking citation despite claiming to be a layman-oriented scientific text--actual layman-oriented soft-science texts like Altemeyer's The Authoritarians have a fuckton of citations in every chapter).

I don't care about what's more right-wing, only the facts. "All trannies are mentally ill, letting them live as the opposite sex and giving them hormones is just catering to their insanity and that's why they have high suicide rates, so CLEARLY they should not transition and stay miserable their whole lives, THAT will lower the suicide rate" is a meme on Voat--and unlike other right-wing stuff like the black-white IQ gap, the facts don't support it.

The claim of /u/LawyersPlayDota seems to be that transitioning causes suicide, that there's a way to relieve dysphoria without transitioning.

There are lots of 40-year-olds with a wife, kids and Superman jaw who would love to know what the fuck that method is. Because taking testosterone supplements doesn't help.

I definitely prefer mid-2017 FPH to 2018 FPH in this area.