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[–] Shitladyliberty 1 points 13 points (+14|-1) ago 

Government conspiracy to make the cattle fat and docile and desperate for public health care. Look at the food pyramid and all of the sugar subsidies from dairy to HFCs.

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[–] WeightIsPersonality 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

More likely a corporatist conspiracy than a government one. Get people to overconsume on your products and push the consequences onto someone else. A public health care system could protect shitpeople by charging obeasts much more than humans, thus preventing them from pushing their costs onto humans like the current system does.

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[–] LessRealsMoreFeels 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Which politicians have tried to get the obese to pay more for healthcare?

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[–] Shitladyliberty 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Keynesian economics, the government litterally supports these beasts.

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[–] CosmoMcKinley 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

AKA chew chew chew, it is the thing to do.

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[–] ketogirl 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

It's just a concept that happens to be logically supportable

Not as much as you think. You can feed the same person the same number of calories but in different foods and the weight gain will be different. You can feed two different people the same amount of food and the weight gain/loss will be different.

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[–] Carsandsarcasm 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

This is the problem with fats being a majority. Misinformation is always present, but with the sheer number of hamplanets, they can create so much popularity and support for blatant lies that this happens. Google can only reflect what people want and what people want are comforting lies. We can never hope to overturn this level of stupidity because we simply lack the numbers. For ever shitlord voice, there are 7-8 lardbarges voices ready to tell you that, "Ackshually, metabolisms is complicated and condishuns can make u fat" and everyone agrees because the majority can't be wrong, right?

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[–] EarthquakesAreScary 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

There absolutely is. Coke and pepsi have both had campaigns of varying levels of complexity to try steering people away from calorie counting. Obviously they have diet sodas, bottled water and other ways to keep people giving them money. But there's a pretty obvious overall goal of keeping people in a cycle where they jump from option to option.

Beyond that it's pretty much just idle speculation. But I don't think you have to be full tinfoil hat level paranoid to assume that something as big as the packaged food and drink industry would want to push the idea. And as someone else mentioned, it's always easy when the PR campaign is something that people want to hear. You just have to toss the seeds out at that point and people will essentially provide a huge amount of unpaid labor all on their own.

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[–] GodOfTheGaps 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Because diet is an abused and misunderstood nowadays, it's in the bin with curvy

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[–] ketogirl 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

No, the Coke people have been telling people that the sugar isn't to blame. They've always pushed the 'poor self control/lack of exercise' paradigm.

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[–] AlanTuringsGhost 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

WHAT THE FLYING FUCKITY FUCK FUCK.

There is nothing 'new' about CICO, doctors have known about it for centuries FOR FUCKS SAKE.

SMH.

FUCK THIS WORLD!

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[–] Starmay 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

I believe i found a pic that will sum up your feelings.

I don't want to live on this planet anymore

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[–] GodOfTheGaps 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I SAW some of those articles, a quick tldr: CICO doesn't account for "insert macro/vitamin/etc here". Thus you may drop the pounds, but not be "healthy". You should try "BUZZFEED slideshow of outdated diet advise here"

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[–] AlanTuringsGhost 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Doh, 1500 calories of Mars bars will make you feel like shit but still lose weight. Of course common sense would mix in good macro-nutrient ratios and get plenty of micronutrients but that's up to the individual.

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[–] jhaluska 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

"You should stay unhealthy, because you might be unhealthy if you lose weight!" /facepalm

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[–] PaperEngines 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

"eating less won't make you lose weight." Modern journalism everyone

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[–] birds_sing 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I don't think there's a "dietgate" or conspiracy. It's simply people only listening to, and repeating, what they want to hear. What they want to be true.

Then there's others who only say what others want to hear in order to be popular. Whether that be individuals or media. When it comes to media (websites for example) they get traffic by writing things that people want to hear, what they want to be true. Resulting in more traffic and ad revenue.

Also, I don't think the makers of toilet paper holding sticks are trying to make people fat enough to need their product. They're simply profiting off of the situation.

Another example is that farmers and ranchers aren't deciding to grow food that makes people fat over food that doesn't. They're simply growing the most profitable crops/livestock. Yes it may be less healthy and more fattening, but that's not why they grow it. It's just a coincidence that it's more profitable.

Again, I don't see it as a conspiracy, it's just people and companies taking advantage of and profiting off of fatties.

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[–] EarthquakesAreScary 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I don't think there's a "dietgate" or conspiracy. It's simply people only listening to, and repeating, what they want to hear. What they want to be true.

I'd agree that it's a large part of the discussion. I'm somewhat skeptical of any accusations of astroturfing on reddit, for example. I mean that's the whole point of viral marketing. At least to any major extent. If it's being done properly the whole point is that the general public will do it themselves. Without need for payment or legal restrictions involving claims being made.

That said, there absolutely is a directed push to move the discussion away from calorie counting. Coke's mixify campaign was one of the biggest recent blunders there. Pepsi's burn it to earn it campaign was a more successful version. Not technically saying "hey, don't worry about calories! We acknowledge it!" but that's also why it worked better. The quick acknowledgement and then distraction does a better job of hiding that concern than more directed attempts.

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[–] veganesthie 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Ugh physics is now a fad, great

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