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[–] Rokuah 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

Wait, it is? Doesn't busting tape fall under failure to obey a lawful order? If I ever have a troop that refuses to get his shit together to the point that he's getting kicked out because of something simple as passing a damn PT test, I'll do everything in my power to get him as dishonorably discharged as possible.

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[–] Azryael 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

It didn't count as that in the navy.

You got put on FEP (fitness enhancement program, or fat enlisted personnel. You're choice) and if you didn't go to that, THEN you could get sent up to mast.

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[–] Rokuah 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Yeah, we have something like that in the Air Force too. But if you failed after being put in Fat Flight, You'd get kicked out under an admin discharge.

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[–] Syouken 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

i got stuck there when I had shin splints and still out exercised the fatties lol

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[–] KikiCat 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

I'm not excusing a dui or drugs but those can be a one time mistake and obviously a dui is a more of a clear danger to others... but to get fat isn't a one time mistake...it's a systematic process over weeks and years. It's a deliberate choice you make over and over again.

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[–] theepilepticferret 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

I liked that show. The sheer number of calories these trainers had to eat every day to gain weight like that is crazy. And some of them would be complaining of stomach aches, gastrointestinal issues, depression, etc. That's why I don't believe these fatties who claim to "only eat 500 calories a day" or think they can be "healthy at any size". Hams are fucking miserable being trapped in their fat bodies, but they desperately try to convince themselves that they aren't.

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[–] linesandpixels 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Fatty, you didn't choose to leave. You got kicked out. It was your "choice" just like a four star with a DUI "chooses to retire".

Him continuing to gorge on beetus was basically him choosing to leave.

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[–] stradian 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Lastly, how in the hell is getting kicked out for busting tape an honorable discharge? When you join, you know you have certain fitness standards that you have to maintain. How is some fatty who chooses to eat so much that they're overweight any different than the guys that pop positive on drug tests or get a DUI? They're all choices, and they all know it's against the standards. It should be a less than honorable just like the latter two.

3–14. Body fat assessment failure within 36 months of release from Army Body Composition Program

a. If a Soldier again exceeds the body fat standard within 12 months after release from the ABCP, a DA Form 268 will be initiated on the Soldier. The Soldier will undergo a medical evaluation (at own expense for RC not on active duty).

(1) If the Soldier is found to have a temporary medical condition that prevents weight or body fat loss, the commander will follow the requirements of paragraph 3–11.

(2) If no underlying medical condition is found, the commander will initiate separation action, bar to reenlistment, or transfer to the IRR per paragraph 3–12d.

So fail tape, get put on notice, fail again, get in diet program (ABCP), fail within 12 months of ABCP discharge, get an exam for cundishuins, fail cundishuins, The commander does determine that you actually do have body fat and get barred from reenlistment and get a discharge. It doesn't have to be honorary, he did work, after all.

There have been fit people (especially heavy cyclists and lifters) who will fail tape. Their necks, hips, and upper waist, and combined with being short, will make them fail tape. I was occasionally one of them when body fat requirements was actually lower then reported on this page. http://www.calculator.net/army-body-fat-calculator.html

Article on how bad tape was for bad asses: http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/archives/2013/05/21/experts-tape-test-has-huge-margin-of-error/78539504/

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[–] stefwithanF 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I didn't like it. The lady trainer whose fat fuck stopped participating - she had a tooth come out from her "to fat" phase.

F that. I've had one extracted & no way would I go through that for some fat asshole

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